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    Default COVID-19 (Coronavirus) chat #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    One of the things this whole pandemic-management-lockdown-business indirectly exposes is the disproportionate mental health issue we seem to have. This is completely generally speaking, but even going back to the first, relatively mild lockdown - why are so many people in our society just a few weeks of being cooped up with their nearest and dearest away from mental breakdown? Is it the pressure of wanting to emerge from this unscathed, economically, educationally, socially? I don't know. I really feel for Victorians right now, and I hope the mental health support will help people.
    I've read this post a few times and don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that staying home for a few weeks was the straw that broke the camel's back and exposed mental health issues in a lot of people? or something else?

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    Personally, I just think that it's just adding another layer of stress people don't need... it's hard enough being a parent, let alone trying to be a full time parent, hold down a job, play teacher, run a house.... I'm not so sure that's a mental health issue as such, just a new degree of stress on families that they wouldn't otherwise have if their children were going to school/ kinder/childcare.

    I think if you took any single responsibility away most people would cope fine. Aka they can cook, clean, run a house and be mum/dad while working, but being a teacher TOO?...no... Or they can teach and be a parent, but running the house as well?....no...

    It's just a dynamic of juggling an extra hat we as a society haven't really had to do on such a large scale. It's perfectly natural to worry about the end outcome of how everyone is going to come out of it. I'd like to think my kids aren't going to have negative effects, but I can't say for sure.

    Ds1 literally whooped and did a happy dance when I said we are home schooling. 🤦‍♀️ I think I died a little inside 😅 but was also kind of proud that he was happy to go again and wasn't dreading it like I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowangel0205 View Post
    Ds1 literally whooped and did a happy dance when I said we are home schooling. 🤦‍♀️ I think I died a little inside 😅 but was also kind of proud that he was happy to go again and wasn't dreading it like I am.
    Clearly you made it too much fun for him 😁. One of the mums at school was telling me that her daughter didn't want to go back last time when schools reopened, her grandma had been home schooling - so the mum took over for a week, and just like that real school seemed far more appealing...

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    @turquoisecoast I would just tell her that you hope she doesn't have to find out what a hard lockdown really feels like, and that it's nice when you have the choice of dabbling in it when you don't actually have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    @turquoisecoast I would just tell her that you hope she doesn't have to find out what a hard lockdown really feels like, and that it's nice when you have the choice of dabbling in it when you don't actually have to.
    this! ill quote you verbatim. dabbling in its summarizes it perfectly. the ability to choose which aspects of the “disaster” to apply to
    your own life are nice privilege. but stop playing games and pretending you know what it’s like.

    like she was telling me oh if it all went down here in wa, we’d go to our parents place, safety in numbers etc. that alone is so ignorant because in a true state of disaster, you’re restricted from traveling anywhere. it’s like she thinks she can just up and go, regardless of the fact that police are enforcing stay at home directives. it’s like she thinks i’m just complaining because it’s a bit hard, she really doesn’t get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    this! ill quote you verbatim. dabbling in its summarizes it perfectly. the ability to choose which aspects of the “disaster” to apply to
    your own life are nice privilege. but stop playing games and pretending you know what it’s like.

    like she was telling me oh if it all went down here in wa, we’d go to our parents place, safety in numbers etc. that alone is so ignorant because in a true state of disaster, you’re restricted from traveling anywhere. it’s like she thinks she can just up and go, regardless of the fact that police are enforcing stay at home directives. it’s like she thinks i’m just complaining because it’s a bit hard, she really doesn’t get it.
    Big hugs hun.
    Living in the other end of the country where everything is open. Masks are a foreign concept to most people. In reality I have no idea how it feels like to live there atm. I have 2 dds that tell me about it but its not the same.

    Dd got out of work last night (way after the curfew) and all of sudden there is no train to get home for 2 freaking hours. Her work train station station is one that in middle of not very well lit streets. Its late at night and she got no way home. She ended taking a expensive uber.

    So while i hear their stories and their hear the worries they have I can never fully understand what it is like.

    It's not hard to try and understand. I am sorry your sister is not even trying.

    If you want someone to listen and not judge feel free to pm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guguta View Post
    I think that most people aren't ready to spend so much time with their loved ones. The first week, we also had quite a lot of arguments with my husband because of a misunderstanding. However it's quite sad that many even break up after this isolation because after spending a lot of time together at home they realized that they did not love each other.
    I don't think it's as simple as people realising they do not love each other.

    I think people struggle to understand each other when they themselves are facing extreme stress with no respite. Our social connections have been severed as well as our ability to carry out activities which played a role in alleviating stresses (for some people that's going to the gym, or shopping etc). Everything compounds over time, and what you used to be able to tolerate in your partner (because you were able to have a break from it), you find you can no longer deal with.

    I'm sorry to hear about the struggles between you and your husband. I hope things have improved since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSecret Squirrel View Post
    I've read this post a few times and don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that staying home for a few weeks was the straw that broke the camel's back and exposed mental health issues in a lot of people? or something else?
    I’m not sure exactly what the OP intended but I saw it that COVID has exposed how fragile many peoples mental health was given that this lock down has been the straw that broke the camels back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSecret Squirrel View Post
    I've read this post a few times and don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that staying home for a few weeks was the straw that broke the camel's back and exposed mental health issues in a lot of people? or something else?
    Yep, as pp said above, exposing the fragility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    Yep, as pp said above, exposing the fragility.
    Maybe I'm over tired, or perhaps I've missed the point completely but so much more has been going on that would negatively impact people's mental health than being forced to stay at home. I don't think the majority of people were fragile and on the edge of a mental health cliff before this happened, but the sum total of recent events would have had a profound impact on lots of people. eg here is a list of things that have upset me recently. I'm sure I'm not the only one - mass job losses, shut down of entire industries, number of deaths overseas in particular Italy, Spain, England and New York, panic buying and empty supermarket shelves led to the fear that I would run out of food, the pressure WFH while simultaneously having to home school a SN child, the pressure of having to set up a home office when chairs, computers etc were flying off the shelves and having to spend savings that I had earmarked for home repairs to kit out out said office, sacking of staff at work led to paranoia and being scared I would be next, having to redesign how we do our business ie shift F2F events with external parties to online and reengineer our work practices, fear of the future, too much change too quickly, not knowing how, when and if all of this will end, feeling cut off from friends and family.
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