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    Default Mouth breathing, speech disorders, Orofacial Myofunctional disorder...

    So Ds is 7 years old and has been a mouth breather for as long as I can remember. He doesn't snore, sleeps soundly through the night.
    He was a late talker (age 22m) so we are seeing a speech therapist to correct some sounds (S, Sh, Th and others).
    He is a bright boy with mild symptoms of ADHD and bed wetting.
    We saw another speech therapist who said he is displaying symptoms of Orofacial Myofunctional disorder OMD (Muscles that work the lips, face and tongue need strengthening).
    Everything seems to be related.
    I am not sure if an operation to remove tonsils and adenoids is the best option. The therapist said to try therapy to help strengthen OMD however if he struggles to breath through his nose and keep his mouth closed then it might not work.
    Also mouth breathing (apparently) has been linked to facial changes, limited nasal respiration, therefore adhd symptoms due to reduced oxygen.
    I am so confused.

    Any information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.

    Overall my son isn't 'sick' so I feel like surgery is a drastic option. But maybe it will help correct his breathing, speech and behaviour / growth.

    Thanks x
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    A lot of children diagnosed as being ADHD, aren’t actually ADHD, but are just chronically tired due to sleeping disorders.

    My daughter is much younger, at only just 3.
    We didn’t get her oral restrictions revised as a baby as by the time I had her assessed at 6m we had overcome any hurdles we had with feeding, she took to solid foods ok, and her speech is actually quite advanced for her age.

    But she was a mouth breather, I just didn’t know it was connected.

    We took her to see an orofacial myologist, who was fantastic. Confirmed her oral restrictions, and although gave her exercises to help strengthen (and stretch/ lengthen) parts of her mouth, advises that until her restrictions were looked at by an ENT (who believed in ties) we wouldn’t get full function.

    Earlier this month, after waiting a while to get an appointment. We saw an ENT specialist, and subsequently, my daughter had her adenoids removed (they were quite large) and had her tongue tie revised.

    It’s early days, but she doesn’t spend large amounts of the day with her mouth open, and her breathing during sleep is much improved.

    You say your son sleeps soundly. So he sleeps through the night? You mention bed wetting? Did that happen often?
    Does he fidget/lose covers in bed? Does he wake up hot or sweaty? Are there any dark areas under his eyes?

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    Thank you so much for your reply!
    He sleeps right through the night and doesn't seem hot, sweaty or bags under eyes. He does seem to move a bit more in his sleep (often odd positions), but I wouldn't say that he tosses and turns more than a normal. Covers are on.
    He bed wets every night! I have been waiting for him to start waking up dry (some nights) so that we can try undies.

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    my daughter had surgery thursday for some of the reasons you've listed. it wasn't a full tonsillectomy. recovery so far has been really good.
    havnt seen any progress with bedwetting yet...

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    Hi, how old is your daughter?
    Do you mind telling me what her main symptoms, concerns were? Has she started to breath through her nose now?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BlueBirds View Post
    Hi, how old is your daughter?
    Do you mind telling me what her main symptoms, concerns were? Has she started to breath through her nose now?
    Thanks!
    hi she's 6.5yrs. she mouth breathes, has some obstructed breathing at night, has a high arched narrow palate, overcrowding of teeth, very tired during the day and still wets at night.
    no improvements yet but Im hopeful. we were referred by our dentist. initially asked to get an ENT review January last year; got a second opinion this year and just had them out last week. she had intracapsular tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy. large adenoid in there. first day after op wasnt the best but doing well now

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    Thanks for you reply, I am glad to hear she is doing well now.
    Please update me down the tack

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BlueBirds View Post
    Thank you so much for your reply!
    He sleeps right through the night and doesn't seem hot, sweaty or bags under eyes. He does seem to move a bit more in his sleep (often odd positions), but I wouldn't say that he tosses and turns more than a normal. Covers are on.
    He bed wets every night! I have been waiting for him to start waking up dry (some nights) so that we can try undies.
    I’d hazard a guess that the bed wetting is linked.
    Bed-wetting can also be a common symptom of mouth breathing due to overstimulation of the nervous system.

    What is his behaviour like during the day?

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    bed wetting is definitely linked. the brain isnt getting the right oxygenation to flick that physiological switch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calstar View Post
    I’d hazard a guess that the bed wetting is linked.
    Bed-wetting can also be a common symptom of mouth breathing due to overstimulation of the nervous system.

    What is his behaviour like during the day?
    He is a bright boy, just hyperactive and often distracted or distracts others in class. He is doing well at school but gets into trouble quite a bit.


 

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