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    Following on from my post earlier in the week about kids coping in hot temps with no aircon I thought I would start a post about class sizes.

    As I said earlier DD is in a catholic school and they do not have to follow state suggested caps on class sizes. This year she is in year 2 and has 30 kids in the class. The school was hoping class sizes would drop next year but it seems not, she will have 29 kids in her class in year 3.

    How does this compare to other children and what are opinions on how these size classes affect learning?

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    Hi @Heyside!

    DD1 starts kindy at a catholic school in Feb and I think they 'allow' 30 in her class but I don't think there are quite 30

    I'm not sure how I feel about it tbh. Then the public school near us has heaps of new builds going on and my understanding is from PP they have to accept all kids within the catchment, so I don't know how that works either

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    That is a lot of children in one class! It is just one teacher?
    My sons school will have 11 classes of grade 3 year next year with 20 children per class.

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    We are in a state school in QLD. DD11 in year 6 has 23, DD 14 in year 8 has 24. Both are state schools. In primary school for both girls the largest class we have had is 24.

    ETA the primary school has just over 600 and the high school has 1800 or so. There are 4 year 6 classes at the primary school. I have no idea how many year 8 classes, but they do all excursions and camps with half the year level.
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    Mine have always gone to a Catholic school, 2 actually. The first one was a large school, over 600 kids, multiple classes in each year level. The largest class we had was 28 kids and they would not take any more enrollenents unless a child left. Our school now is only small and has a cap on how many students. It's a new school (opened 3 years ago). No class has over 26 students and every class has at least 1 teacher aid full time. Our kids are absolutely thriving.

    When we were guardians of my husband's siblings they were at a state school. We ended up transferring them to a Catholic school as we found they weren't receiving the level of support they needed at the state school. The almost immediate change was incredible. Similar class sizes but so much more one on one interaction and support from the teachers and school as a whole. Their attention and work improved beyond belief.

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    Pretty sure the school my kids go to now tries to keep it around 18 for k, 1 and 2 classes and then up to 23 for the higher grades. Not 100% sure though.

    Their last school really only ever hit about 12 max.

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    Hi @Molros, yes I have heard state schools have to accept all but from what I can gather here in QLD they have a cap of 26 children and then they have to open a new class. Hope your DD settles in well and has a good start to school.

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    In NSW public schools, classes for first year of school should not exceed 20. In year 1, maximum 22 and in year 2 no more than 24. Of course some schools might be one student over but any more than that in public schools I would question as staffing is allocated according to student numbers in each year and any time a school reaches the next level they are entitled to another teacher.

    Not sure about other states but a lot of catholic schools in Sydney and surrounds often have up to 35 students in all grades. They try and justify it by saying there’s teachers’ aides in first year of school but I wouldn’t be happy with that arrangement for my kids.

    NSW public schools suggest no more than 30 students for 3-6.

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    @Lincolns mummy - This year she had a full times teacher's aide which was decided after complaints from parents and was only due to the kids young age but not sure if that will happen again in year 3? Wow 11 classes that is a huge cohort of kids but 20 per class sounds like bliss.
    @PomPoms - Those numbers sound lovely and very manageable.
    @SheWarrior - sounds like a lovely set up and sounds like your kids are doing well because of it.

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    @Ahalfdozen - Oh wow is that a state school?


 

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