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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgeorge View Post
    @Notalone thanks for your kind words and birthday wishes for vivi. Yes i got my nipt, managed to get a nurse to tell me it was "low risk" and that we have a little boy on board. So its going well. People are still laughing at me as they congratulate me, which is lovely. How are you going?
    Happy birthday Vivi and fantastic news on your NIPT results, a little brother for Vivi how lovely. Wow You’ve come such a long way in this journey!!

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    Default Egg Donation Greece #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Juventina View Post
    Thank you ladies @gorgeousgeorge @Phia @Notalone @stacey10

    I’m going on my own this time (first time just me!) I’ll pop in and see some family in Italy if the dates all align. I haven’t booked my return flight yet so I’ve got an extra 10 days to play with if I need it.

    I’m back on everything the same as last time except the Filgrastim injection which my FS did yesterday (did a mock cycle with it in late October and it did its job with the lining).
    Cannot believe this is my 5th time!

    Very disappointed however with Dr M. Been trying to talk to him since September and had no return calls or emails. So I’m doing his same protocol, however would have been nice to discuss with him!!!! Honestly their service is pathetic. Ridiculous charges for a 2 min phone conversation and then even more difficult to get onto them. He knew things didn’t work again in July but an updated protocol would have been helpful.
    I agree @Juventina
    I am heading back at the end of Feb and Dr M seemed to just run through the same thing with me on the phone and it appears we are generally all on the same protocol
    I did however recently see my Endocrinologist (thyroid) and she said I definitely should not use dexmethisone as it crosses the uterus and can cause issues with the brain developing and cleft pallets in babies
    She recommended that I go back to prednisone. I asked him and he pretty much agreed and said that I can be on prednisone then sent me a script
    I had to book another phone consult to get him to call or update me on what do to next
    I have lost faith in him and feel that he just throws you on everything just incase ????
    Has anyone else felt this way ??
    Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of you wonderful ladies have fallen because of his protocol
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    Default Egg Donation Greece #15

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLee1980 View Post
    I agree @Juventina
    I am heading back at the end of Feb and Dr M seemed to just run through the same thing with me on the phone and it appears we are generally all on the same protocol
    I did however recently see my Endocrinologist (thyroid) and she said I definitely should not use dexmethisone as it crosses the uterus and can cause issues with the brain developing and cleft pallets in babies
    She recommended that I go back to prednisone. I asked him and he pretty much agreed and said that I can be on prednisone then sent me a script
    I had to book another phone consult to get him to call or update me on what do to next
    I have lost faith in him and feel that he just throws you on everything just incase ????
    Has anyone else felt this way ??
    Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of you wonderful ladies have fallen because of his protocol
    I hear ya, I had to set aside my feelings about whether he just threw the sink or if it was arbitrary. It wasn’t reassuring but I had to remember that I read the book after it was recommended to me by @BlondeinBrisvegas and he was the only one that had unlocked a new lead so I was like - I either believe or let it go - In the end, I’m in for a penny, in for a pound.

    After 1 failed cycle with Dr M I was on Dex and I think it made the difference. I was worried about cleft palate but bubba was fine. It’s definitely a stronger feeling than prednisolone and my FS (LB) was very concerned. I had to compartmentalise the three FS’s advice.
    LB to get my uterus ready -
    (hysteroscopy and scratch)
    Dr M to keep my body from attacking and keep the baby (clexane dexmethasone and then moved on to prednisolone after week 10 or 11) plaquenil doxycycline methylated folate, vit B E D, Calcium). Meds monitored with monthly blood tests to check inflammation markers. Oh and baby aspirin ( thanks Kalina I forgot about that) and Intrallipids.
    Dr K to get ready for transfer (progynova/progesterone - although I upped it as I was low).
    @LeeLee1980 -I understand the nervousness given his style. In the end it’s a personal thing and it’s up to you. For me, it was about weighing up what I needed to do to have peace of mind if my last cycle was a negative.

    Best of luck we are all behind you

    Last edited by Phia; 16-01-2019 at 08:03. Reason: Forgot intrallipids and baby aspirin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLee1980 View Post
    I agree @Juventina
    I am heading back at the end of Feb and Dr M seemed to just run through the same thing with me on the phone and it appears we are generally all on the same protocol
    I did however recently see my Endocrinologist (thyroid) and she said I definitely should not use dexmethisone as it crosses the uterus and can cause issues with the brain developing and cleft pallets in babies
    She recommended that I go back to prednisone. I asked him and he pretty much agreed and said that I can be on prednisone then sent me a script
    I had to book another phone consult to get him to call or update me on what do to next
    I have lost faith in him and feel that he just throws you on everything just incase ????
    Has anyone else felt this way ??
    Don’t get me wrong, I know a lot of you wonderful ladies have fallen because of his protocol

    Completely felt the same way @LeeLee1980. I had two phone consults with him out of sheer desperation, after my second failed DE attempt. You just get to a point where you're convinced that something is really wrong with you. I was not very impressed at paying 475 for a grand total of seven minutes on the phone over two "consultations", just to be prescribed what most people seem to be prescribed anyway. He told me I had an imbalance and would need dexamethasone to get pregnant, and to have intralipids (only with him, as he does it differently [and more expensively]) etc, avoid dairy, avoid gluten.

    Long story short, I didn't feel comfortable taking dex and didn't think that he'd spent enough time looking at my case to be prescribing such an intense drug the long term effects of which are unknown.

    At the end of the day, in the ttc world you have to decide which way to jump with immunology stuff. You find a specialist you have confidence in, and follow their advice. For me, that wasn't Dr M, and I didn't use his protocol on my successful cycle.

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    As everything is going well so far I've started to turn my mind to telling people around us about the pregnancy. I won't be able to hide it much longer - even though I'm only 12 weeks, in the morning I have no bump, just a thickening, but by the late afternoon on some days I'm so bloated that I look properly pregnant and it's hard to hide. Ideally I'd hold off longer, but my belly says otherwise.

    So the thing on my mind is what do we tell people. We always planned to tell the child that we used donor eggs, but I feel less certain about telling friends. I'm trying to work out why I feel like this way, but am wondering if anyone else had the same dilemma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    As everything is going well so far I've started to turn my mind to telling people around us about the pregnancy. I won't be able to hide it much longer - even though I'm only 12 weeks, in the morning I have no bump, just a thickening, but by the late afternoon on some days I'm so bloated that I look properly pregnant and it's hard to hide. Ideally I'd hold off longer, but my belly says otherwise.

    So the thing on my mind is what do we tell people. We always planned to tell the child that we used donor eggs, but I feel less certain about telling friends. I'm trying to work out why I feel like this way, but am wondering if anyone else had the same dilemma.
    Leading up to it, I had no problem sharing that I was going overseas, donor egg. Now that she’s here, it rarely comes up. Maybe because she looks exactly like my hubby. It’s not that I’m keeping it a secret but most of friends haven’t probed further and seems to be a non point. I don’t share it with new people but strangers I will share if the topic of ivf comes up. It’s such a personal thing and everyone will be different I suppose.
    So happy that you’re at this point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    As everything is going well so far I've started to turn my mind to telling people around us about the pregnancy. I won't be able to hide it much longer - even though I'm only 12 weeks, in the morning I have no bump, just a thickening, but by the late afternoon on some days I'm so bloated that I look properly pregnant and it's hard to hide. Ideally I'd hold off longer, but my belly says otherwise.

    So the thing on my mind is what do we tell people. We always planned to tell the child that we used donor eggs, but I feel less certain about telling friends. I'm trying to work out why I feel like this way, but am wondering if anyone else had the same dilemma.
    Hi @Kalina,

    It must be tricky to decide and I wonder if you need extra stress at the moment...

    And of course all friends are not created equal!

    A friend of mine who fell pregnant at 44/45yo with DE just told people who were ‘amazed’ that it had been a long IVF journey - which is pretty accurate! They also only told some siblings, not all.

    Hope this may get you thinking what direction feels right with you.

    I have some lovely close friends but thinking if I was in your situation and one was to tell her sister and I’m not a fan of her gossipy sister anyway and her knowing would annoy me .... so there may be the ‘flow on’ consequences to consider.

    Maybe having had one child it’s less of a shock when you do get pregnant at an older age? Sorry I’m not sure of your age exactly!

    All the very best, just do what feels right for you!

    Good luck, and I’m sure your announcement will be warmly received!

    JM x

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    @Kalina :-) it's ok to feel that way..I was different and told everyone, although i live in such a small town and have worked with my colleagues for 10 years, so for me it wasnt really possible to just tell a select few people as everyone knows everyone so i was happy to basically tell everyone I know and then thought that eventually the info would spread around anyway. And you know what? People who were close to me were amazed by my story of my journey but honestly, nobody really batted an eyelid or even really cared about the de aspect. I was surprised because I thought people would ask lots of questions or be a little judgemental about the DE aspect. But honestly most people were just like, "oh yeah i saw a lady on 60 minutes who did that" and then just went on to ask me the normal questions you ask any pregnant lady like due date and if i was finding out gender and baby names i liked. I haven't encountered any negativity at all. I think maybe we over think it as is natural because its a big decision for us but other people really dont understand the real journey and they just get excited and happy for you because there's going to be a baby. I even told all the kids in my classes from Year 7 through to Year 12 and they were like, "cool whatever ". Everyone just thought it was lovely that i must have really wanted a baby and that i was getting one. The only 'strangeness' i encountered was from one Year 7 student, who must have not really understood embryo donation because when i took Vivienne to the school athletics carnival she said, "oooh what a cute baby! Do you know it's name?" Like id found her in a dumpster or something and "adopted" her like a lost puppy.
    In saying all that, i think the people who love you will just be happy for you and for me it was easier just telling people than asking people to keep it a "secret". I kinda felt it was an all or nothing. Either I tell no one or be willing for everyone to know. But i do think its a personal decision that is probably different for everyone. But yeah being a small town i really thought it would be more sensational and controversial for other people, but no one really cared except to be amazed and think i was very brave to persist so many times. And say how wonderful it was that science could make babies these days.
    I also felt it would be better for vivienne if everyone already knew so it wasnt a big deal when she was old enough to understand and there was no reaon to go on aboit it as it was old news. I do every now and then get people ask if i was surprised whem she came out with red hair and im like, "Yes. Yes i was" and laugh.
    But thats just me and my thinking, its ok if it feels different for you.
    So glad all is going well too!
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    @gorgeousgeorge ‘do you know her name?’ How did you keep a straight face?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justme007 View Post
    @gorgeousgeorge ‘do you know her name?’ How did you keep a straight face?!
    I didn't 🤣🤣🤣 I just said, "yes, i do because i named her". Her little sidekick best friend just looked at me and rolled her eyes as if to say, "I'm so sorry about her, Miss".
    Another friend took her bub in to meet her year 7 class and one of them said, "that's a cute baby, can I pat it?" Even though they're at high school, its easy to forget they are really only about 11 years old. I could tell sooo many stories. They are hillarious most of the time.
    I had a kid in history class ask me "Miss, when did the world turn from black and white to colour?" And i had to explain that was just television and that 'the world' has always been 'in colour'.

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