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    Default save our sleep technique - if baby sleeps in parents room

    Tried this yesterday

    an absolute miracle. 4 month old daughter went down for each nap and night sleep on own, cried a bit in line with book, cries could be clearly identified as protest cries per the book, then fell asleep.

    for day sleeps she still woke after 1 sleep cycle but for night sleep she actually slept better.

    now later in night when she wakes for feeding/other my wife brings her into our bed

    I'm thinking we should continue with the guidelines and just put her down in our crib beside us and let her protest for a bit? with us just lying in our own beds not making eye contact?

    I ask because the book/other books seem to only talk from the perspective of people who have babies sleeping in separate rooms.

    Thanks!

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    Given that the woman who wrote that book didn't even use her techniques on her own children, I think you should throw the book away and respond to your baby's cues.
    What actually is a protest cry anyway? Crying is your babies way of communicating. Your baby is telling you she needs you, and at 4 months old she is simply crying herself to sleep as mum and dad didn't respond her to cues. Babies who cry it out have increased cortisol levels in their system.
    Respond to your baby, let her know you are there for her. Take her to bed and cuddle her to get a better night sleep. Help her get to sleep. She won't need you to do this for her forever. But this is part of the deal in having a baby. You respond to their needs. Tizzie Hall's qualification when she wrote that awful book was that she was a nanny. That was it. That book shouldn't be allowed to be sold.
    Read some Pinky McKay if you want advice on settling your baby that doesn't involve ignoring your baby's cries and doesn't raise their cortisol levels.

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    4 months is waaaaay too young to do any kind of sleep training. Please listen to what @Full House has said.

    Look up Evolutionary Parenting on FB. There is some good information/research on there about responding to your baby. There’s even a Q&A with Pinky from the weekend (on Pinky’s FB page) which should have some good info. I only caught the end of it, but given why they were together in the first place, it should be helpful.

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    Even Tizzy Hall herself (who ironically doesn't even use controlled crying on her own kids) says not before 6+ months.

    They are so little for such a small amount of time. Respond to your child's cries, she is trying to tell you something.

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    Default save our sleep technique - if baby sleeps in parents room

    Absolutely agree with FullHouse. Couldn’t have said it better.

    And to elaborate further, cortisol is a neurobiological stress hormone. Excessive amounts/production long term can affect brain development/response.
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    Enjoy your baby and don’t worry about sleep. Before you know it, bub will be grown and independent. I wish for those baby days for my big kids. As the PPs have said, follow baby’s cues and go with the flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    Given that the woman who wrote that book didn't even use her techniques on her own children, I think you should throw the book away and respond to your baby's cues.
    What actually is a protest cry anyway? Crying is your babies way of communicating. Your baby is telling you she needs you, and at 4 months old she is simply crying herself to sleep as mum and dad didn't respond her to cues. Babies who cry it out have increased cortisol levels in their system.
    Respond to your baby, let her know you are there for her. Take her to bed and cuddle her to get a better night sleep. Help her get to sleep. She won't need you to do this for her forever. But this is part of the deal in having a baby. You respond to their needs. Tizzie Hall's qualification when she wrote that awful book was that she was a nanny. That was it. That book shouldn't be allowed to be sold.
    Read some Pinky McKay if you want advice on settling your baby that doesn't involve ignoring your baby's cries and doesn't raise their cortisol levels.
    This. All of this. I know it's hard to function without sleep, but this book is very dangerous and should be remove from publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    Given that the woman who wrote that book didn't even use her techniques on her own children, I think you should throw the book away and respond to your baby's cues.
    What actually is a protest cry anyway? Crying is your babies way of communicating. Your baby is telling you she needs you, and at 4 months old she is simply crying herself to sleep as mum and dad didn't respond her to cues. Babies who cry it out have increased cortisol levels in their system.
    Respond to your baby, let her know you are there for her. Take her to bed and cuddle her to get a better night sleep. Help her get to sleep. She won't need you to do this for her forever. But this is part of the deal in having a baby. You respond to their needs. Tizzie Hall's qualification when she wrote that awful book was that she was a nanny. That was it. That book shouldn't be allowed to be sold.
    Read some Pinky McKay if you want advice on settling your baby that doesn't involve ignoring your baby's cries and doesn't raise their cortisol levels.
    Yep!! It’s dangerous and at that age totally inappropriate. Respond to bub, pat, cuddle, feed them to sleep.

    Remember your child hasn’t read any of these books so they have no idea what’s expected. I also agree that if you insist on reading a book and following it you should carefully check the credentials of the author.

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    Tizzy Hall, makes my blood boil. That is all.

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    I can't imagine purposefully avoiding eye contact with my upset, seeking comfort very young baby. Please, take the above advice and relax your expectations.

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