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    OMG....thank you for the thread! I am going crazy combing through the web looking for countries that can do IVF w/donor eggs for the last 2 months! Was going crazy as to where to go in Malaysia for IVF & donor eggs. I came across 6 clinics but I can't keep track of that many correspondence going back and forth. I received quote on prices but am confused about all those separate charges I was quoted on. This is not our first round of IVF, so We are on a tight budget. Going through IVF is quite expensive and emotionally upsetting.

    I have read the posts and you guys spoke of ALFA, METRO, SUNFERT. Other than these 3, has anyone have dealt with KL,CONCEPT, IVF BRIDGE?

    I am hoping someone here has the same requirements as me and can tell me the total price they paid for so I can have an idea. My husband and I are healthy except I am 44 and the clinic said I have high FSH.

    what we are looking for
    IVF +chinese donor FEE
    ICSI
    (all meds for donor & me)
    (all blood works, screening, semen analysis)
    consulations/scans
    doctor fee
    counselling
    egg retrieval
    blastocyst culturing or assist hatching
    FET
    1 year embryo storage

    PGS ( a lot of clinic charge this separately)


    I listed all these because some clinic charge for some services separately. ALSO, did you have to do a HSG test prior to going to your appointment in Malaysia?

    If anyone have had all these done, please let me know the price and which clinic, what you liked about it and what you don't like about it.

    My husband and I want to make the trip to Malaysia very soon. Thank you in advance!
    Last edited by DanielleCanada; 08-01-2019 at 18:07.

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    Hi @DanielleCanada! Congrats on making the decision. I just returned from my transfer in Malaysia and is currently pregnant!! Early days so fingers crossed my first scan and followup blood test next week turn out great!

    The costs for a clinic (Sunfert and Alpha) in Mslaysia all inclusive of the items you listed, is about ~ AUD 25K thereabouts. . Within that, about RM 20K (~ AUD 7K) goes to the donor and the agency that manages the donors. I suggest you setting up a spreadsheet to compare the items included/excluded per clinic, but honestly they are pretty standard.

    I ended with Alpha due to the range of Asian donor options. Alpha is very busy but they are professional - you just see a lot of hustle and bustle unlike Sunfert. Alpha also just won 2018 Best Fertility Clinic in Malaysia.

    Sunfert is very boutique and was great too, but there wasn’t many donors to choose from and I only found 2 of some level of interest.

    There wasn’t really any counselling really. Each clinic, I spent a lot of time waiting for my turn, saw the doctor talking about IVF, checked my lining ($) and then waited to see the nurse who would talk through the donors available, for us to choose.

    I suggest you arrange time to see a few clinics while you are there in KL, and allow a clinic a day. I rushed between the two (Alpha & Sunfert). Didn’t make it to the third.

    I did all my bloodwork in Australia under Medicare. We used the semen test results we did earlier from previous cycles. The Malaysian clinics should accept results within the 6 months period, as relevant and up to date. Ask them.

    Not sure what HSG test is, I haven’t done that to date.

    When I committed to a clinic with my donor options, the clinic (Alpha) gave me medicine to take with me back to Australia, to start taking as per instructed, leading to the planned transfer. Cherrie, the Customer Service Rep, communicated with me via Watsapp and she is the liaison between me and the doctor/nurses.

    Before the transfer, I got support from my GP to refer me for breast (abnormal lumps), pelvic and uterine lining ultrasound. This is to ensure your body is in order before you receive the transfer.

    After the transfer, I got some more meds as well eg pessaries etc. to support the luteal phase, towards the pregnancy test. There’s a doctor referral letter as well, to brief your GP and handing over you to your GP’s care for antenatal support etc.

    Hope this helps!!! GOOD LUCK! I’m happy that you’ve made the decision to proceed.




    Quote Originally Posted by DanielleCanada View Post
    OMG....thank you for the thread! I am going crazy combing through the web looking for countries that can do IVF w/donor eggs for the last 2 months! Was going crazy as to where to go in Malaysia for IVF & donor eggs. I came across 6 clinics but I can't keep track of that many correspondence going back and forth. I received quote on prices but am confused about all those separate charges I was quoted on. This is not our first round of IVF, so We are on a tight budget. Going through IVF is quite expensive and emotionally upsetting.

    I have read the posts and you guys spoke of ALFA, METRO, SUNFERT. Other than these 3, has anyone have dealt with KL,CONCEPT, IVF BRIDGE?

    I am hoping someone here has the same requirements as me and can tell me the total price they paid for so I can have an idea. My husband and I are healthy except I am 44 and the clinic said I have high FSH.

    what we are looking for
    IVF +chinese donor FEE
    ICSI
    (all meds for donor & me)
    (all blood works, screening, semen analysis)
    consulations/scans
    doctor fee
    counselling
    egg retrieval
    blastocyst culturing or assist hatching
    FET
    1 year embryo storage

    PGS ( a lot of clinic charge this separately)


    I listed all these because some clinic charge for some services separately. ALSO, did you have to do a HSG test prior to going to your appointment in Malaysia?

    If anyone have had all these done, please let me know the price and which clinic, what you liked about it and what you don't like about it.

    My husband and I want to make the trip to Malaysia very soon. Thank you in advance!

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    Thank you for your detailed response Birdface. CONGRATS ON THE PREGNANCY!

    So funny you mentioned a spreadsheet. I did do that with 6 clinics and I am still confused as to where to go. I actually wrote off Alfa because it is super expensive and we are financially tight. I had quotes on KL, CONCEPT, SUNFET, IVF BRIDGE, METRO & ALFA, however, some replies are not very detailed and some are so detailed that they point out what exactly is covered and don't cover. After adding up whatever package and other charges, they all come around 40-55K RM. Were you quoted $70k RM for Sunfert for IVF/ ICSI/ PGS w donor eggs? how come it is that much?

    When you visited the 2 clinics, did you do all the tests with both of them and then you picked one on your first trip? Did you have go back to the clinic to let them know to go ahead? How does that work if I was to visit 2-3 clinics?

    I had a chat with my Family doctor regarding my plan. Dr. mentioned that she is limited to IVF and don't specialize in it so she can only help with blood test and ultrasound but anything further, she is not able to help such as prescribe anything to do with IVF drugs (if there is a chemical pregnancy). This would be scary if that is the case if something goes wrong. If I go with my Fertility Clinic and they help me prep me before (blood test, drugs for lining) and after care (hcg tests every 2 days, ultrasound) of my transfer, they charge me $1,000 CDN and that is extra money out of our pocket. Dilemma with finances. Any advice?

    HSG test is when they put blue fluid into your uterus and fallopian tube to see if you are clear and healthy to carry the baby. It is super uncomfortable. I almost fainted I had to do one in Canada with my Fertility Clinic and don't really want to do it again. So Malaysia don't require patients to go through that?
    Last edited by DanielleCanada; 09-01-2019 at 05:42.

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    @Birdface congratulations! Im so happy to hear this! I had been wondering how you were going but didnt want to be nosey. So so happy for you. Yay!

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    Hi again @DanielleCanada!

    I just learnt that another option for Asian donors may be Taiwan. It may be worth considering. If I had known I would have looked into it too.

    Hope below helps!!

    Re. HSG TEST, BREAST ULTRASOUND, BLOODWORK
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    Yes now I recall! Oh yes, it was uncomfortable. It was odd feeling my insides that I don’t usually feel! I’ve done that on my early IVF attempts so I’m all clear on that front. Malaysia didn’t ask for it. I would think you would have had that done already as preliminary tests, if not, I suggest you do.

    I also did Breast Ultrasound before the transfer and turned out a lump was found. I did a biopsy immediately and the result is benign. Phew!!! It may have been caused by hormones from my many IVF cycles. So do get one done too. I think it can be bulk billed.

    Do all your bloodwork under Medicare first then reuse it.


    Re. FET SUPPORT AND AFTER-CARE
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    It may be $1K well spent as ultrasounds can be expensive, but some can also be bulk billed like blood tests.

    Honestly I just DIY with my GP support to get referral for blood tests, ultrasounds etc. I didn’t think about complications afterwards as honestly I didn’t give much thought. If I needed specialist attention, I’d think I will get the help I need then. All meds leading up to preg test was provided by Alpha. Post preg support is typically progesterone pessaries etc. which can be prescribed by the GP - mine did. I have a letter from Alpha doctor to my GP as patient handover for care.


    Re. CHECKUPS in Malaysia
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    I did have an obligatory doctor consult which included a pelvic ultrasound. I stupidly did it twice on the same day at Sunfert and Alpha. I felt bad but you may be able to just show them your recent report (Aus or Msia) and save ~ RM300 (?) for the initial consult.

    Re. CLINICS VISIT
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    I shortlisted Sunfert, Alpha and Concept (part of Damai Hospital). I scheduled appointments on same day - Sunfert in morning, Alpha in afternoon. Concept is optional - I already saw some profiles over email, didn’t connect with it and didn’t like their rooms (saw pics in Google).

    So.... I suggest you see them on separate days. There’s a lot of waiting in the clinic even after the warm welcome. Complete only the obligatory to the point of seeing the donors database / files to see if you find enough you like. REMEMBER you need more than one option, in priority order of preference. Choosing them doesn’t mean they will commit to you, when you want it done etc.

    I chose 4 I liked at Alpha and was initially given Donor 4 but she cancelled her cycle mid-stimulation as her grandma died, and I was assigned Donor Pref #1 instead!!! I took that as fate! 🥳

    Then.. don’t commit, say you need to go away and think about it. Tell them you will call them tomorrow. Go to next clinic, repeat.

    That’s what I did and I’m glad I found donor profiles I like at Alpha. At that point, I was happy to commit to Alpha, given my disappointment with donor options at Sunfert. I spent prob 1/2 to 1 hour looking and considering... and could only see a handful of mere interest.

    I then paid Alpha some money as donor deposit, consultation and medication fees. I didn’t choose donors ready to start immediately as I wasn’t in a hurry and prefer quality of my choice. So I left with donor options, medications and returned to Australia. Husband left his sample in the clinic to freeze for the donors fresh egg collection day.

    When one of my donors had her Day 1 period and is ready to start cycling, Alpha contacted me via Watsapp to confirm I’m ok to proceed with Donor X. With my approval, the donor started, eggs collected, husbands sample defrosted and fertilised with donor egg etc. Now pay up.

    Then.. it is Day 0 to Day 5 fertilisation waiting game, followed by PGS testing and to freezer. They will tell you the results in about a week I think, gender, and then it’s up to you when you want to transfer. They will then work backwards to define your med schedule.


    Re. CONCEPT
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    Concept is affordable and sent me some donor pics over email, based on our blood types and a picture of me. I didn’t like the donors they sent (2 rounds) and so they kind scored low in my priority to visit. I therefore prioritised seeing Sunfert (boutique) then Alpha. As mentioned, Sunfert was great but donor options were poor in my view. Perhaps I was picky.

    Re. SUNFERT is roughly RM70K (AUD25K).
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    “.......Treatment Package and Cost Our IVF-Egg Donation Programme Package cost MYR 26,800. This package excludes the donor's fee which will range between MYR 16,000 – MYR 25,000 per donation cycle and Semen Cryofreezing which cost MYR 800 and the Semen Cryopreservation maintenance fee is MYR 600 for six months or MYR 1,200 per year...... Some couples may wish to do Preimplantation Genetic Screening (PGS) on the embryos before transfer. The cost of PGS is MYR 11,000 for up to 5 embryos. We employ the latest platform for screening – Next Generation Sequencing (NGS). PGS screens all the chromosomes to help us detect chromosomal copy number variations at the embryo stage such as Down Syndrome, Turner Syndrome, Patau Syndrome and other chromosomal abnormalities.”

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    Thank you so much for sharing and the effort you put into replying . I Really appreciate it. 👍

    I wonder who else here has more info on Malaysia to share and Taiwan as you mentioned. Would love to hear.

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    @DanielleCanada - I suggest you start a new thread with emphasis on Taiwan egg donors. I did a quick search and it appears there was a short conversation in 2014 between Project Stork and Tessah.

    Hope you get info about Taiwan donoation. I’m curious too, if only I had known that’s an Asian (Chinese) country with egg donors as an option. Good luck!

    https://www.bubhub.com.au/community/...or#post8696842

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    Hi All Perth Married Hetrosexual couples,

    We have sperm to donate in a freezer at a clinic in Perth. All tests done.

    We’ve been through 2 sessions of counselling waiting to see if we can donate to our required group of people through unknown donor or whether known donor is the only option.

    We have sperm in the freezer remaining from our unsuccessful IVF journey (5 years ago) resulting in hysterectomy and want to help a couple get what we didn’t.

    Your financial concerns are only whatever the clinic charges. We aren’t after money or contact with kids until child is 16/18 when it is no longer a choice but a right of the child’s (our thoughts).

    The IVF clinic we have had counselling with state that the recipricant has the donors details but the donor doesn’t get the recipricants details for unknown donor.

    One day it may be us looking for a embryo donor for surrogacy but at the moment our life is following the Fostering children path.

    Thanks


 

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