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    Default Barnaby Joyce Affair

    What do you all think?

    After his 'Holier than though" preaching during the SSM debate, should he be held to a higher standard?

    Is having an affair while still playing happy families for the by-election a private matter?

    Is having an affair with a staff member an issue?

    Should he resign?

    What do you all think?

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    I think if it was a woman who left her husband and 4 kids and was pregnant with another child with a different man it would’ve been a lot more hostile.

    Personally I think the fact a job was created for her is worse.
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    Normally I wouldn’t give a rats. But given his performance about the sanctity of marriage during the SSM debate, this has really bothered me. Purely for this fact, yes I think he should resign.

    I feel for his wife, I feel for his kids- including his unborn child. However I have zero sympathy for him or the woman he had the affair with.

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    I am thinking, this is such a common story, guy cheats on wife, gets girlfriend pregnant and then ends the marriage. Happens ten times a day any day of the week. But the story is taking on huge proportions because he is a politician. He needs to be trustworthy, and i think he has proved he is not. His wife cant trust him. I think he is at the end of his time in government. And he will still get his pension, and his super, so i have no sympathy for him. marie

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    After his 'Holier than though" preaching during the SSM debate, should he be held to a higher standard?

    Yes. Especially when he was saying that in Parliament and then screwing around on his wife in private. If marriage is so important to him, maybe he should have spent more time following his OWN vows, instead trying to deny SS couples having their chance to say theirs.

    Is having an affair while still playing happy families for the by-election a private matter?

    No. It was deceptive. He knew if it came out he would face a backlash. I'm sorry, but if you want a public life, you want to hold yourself higher than others, and you want to be a leader of this country, then I damn well expect you to have a higher set of morals than to lie, cheat and cover it up!

    Is having an affair with a staff member an issue?

    Yes! As is creating other positions for her. He's abused his power. And I'm thinking it may not be the first time.

    Should he resign?

    Yes. He's morally bankrupt. Not who I want as my deputy PM.

    The whole thing makes me furious as you can probably tell. The gays aren't going to ruin marriage. It's pr!cks like him who can't keep their d!cks in their pants who are doing that. I read his office had the audacity to ask his wife to approve a happy family photo for his Christmas card. She told them to rack off. Good for her. I'm totally on her side. I feel no sympathy for him at all. Or his mistress.

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    watching his press conference is making me sick.

    He doesnt seem to get it that someone else giving him a place to live - ie a gift of rent - might be an issue.

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    and - where to for Australian politics now.

    We have the Prime Minister effectively demanding the resignation of the Deputy PM in public (because he isnt able to actually force him to resign) ... and the Deputy turning around, in public and telling him to take a hike.

    fun things to look forward to ...

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    I did read some there are some rumblings behind party doors and he may get turfed. Who knows. I admit I don't know enough about other national Pollies to know who could take over, but between this and the citizenship issue, they have to realise he is on the nose and a liability surely.

    I'm disillusioned with all the main parties. All they do is shift blame and say one thing, but do another. Malcolm is a major disappointment. He sold his soul to get the job and instead of being a great leader following all his own ideas that made me like him, he's been bowing and toadying to the factions and their outdated ideas and now I can't stand him. I don't really like any of them anymore. Xenophon seems to be the only one who actually cares about the county. The rest of them only care about themselves.

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    I feel like the 'right' answer is that a person's personal life, is just that, personal. Whilst immoral, it isn't illegal. It shouldn't impact his job. I feel uncomfortable in this though as I do believe his role in the public arena means he should be held to a higher standard and be a good role model (in fairness, even before this came out he was definitely NOT a good role model).

    I don't care that is was a staff member - you can't help who you fall for. I don't like that it was an affair (I feel for the kids and the wife) and if her career was furthered based on her relationship.

    I also think that just because he is a homophobic idiot doesn't mean we should sink to his level of involving ourselves in other people's relationships. Let his behaviour be the focus, not how others responded to it. I do acknowledge that as I am not in a same sex relationship I can't understand the hurt his words and actions did. I would like to think that if I was, I could now sit smuggly in my loved up, committed, newly married relationship. THAT is the biggest 'up yours'

    I would love him to resign, I cannot stand him! However, unless it is proven the job promotion/creation was based on relationship rather than merit then I don't think he has to. If it is, that's illegal and bye bye Barnaby!

    ETA: my last paragraph was unclear
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    Default Barnaby Joyce Affair

    This is a difficult one for me. Triggering is perhaps an over statement but I find it hard to be practical about this one.
    A couple of thoughts I’ve had:
    1. Given the toxic way the coalition attacked Julia Gillard’s personal life I think he deserves all the scrutiny we can muster, and judgement.
    2. Questions should be asked about job creation for his mistress (now partner?) as well as questions around location and deception during campaigning.
    3. He is provided with significant benefits as a member of parliament. There are rules as to how those can be claimed. They should be looked into.
    4. I think when you’re part of a party who likes to play the moral and wholesome family values card, they should be called out when they don’t uphold the values they claim to represent.
    5. People who vote for him need to be confident they can trust him. To be confident they need to know if he walks the talk.
    6. He’s a liar and a cheat and she’s no better. I don’t buy into this “it’s not the other woman’s fault”. Actually we’re all responsible for our actions. We make choices. And she made a choice to commence a relationship with her married boss. And a baby is not an accident (same thing I said to my ExH) when you’re conducting an affair, two people know how to not get pregnant if they don’t want to be. They thought of no one but themselves.
    7. And after saying all of that, no I don’t think he should resign. I think there should be a through investigation into his campaign and his use of govt benefits and the jobs for her. And if that investigation concludes that he’s acted inappropriately or illegally, then he shouldn’t just get to resign, he should be charged and kicked out.
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