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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmashie View Post
    I don't see what is wrong with "quietly, obediently" sitting in a circle learning from a teacher??

    Going on a hike, catching lizards and going to the beach sounds awesome... when they are on holidays. Not so much for daily education. As Harvs said is this followed up by any further learning?

    I'm curious how home schooling works. Do the people that home school receive any government subsidies or do you all self fund?
    The children are learning in that moment. Some people would follow up with worksheets or something. Others would let their children continue learning (playing, researching, exploring, discovering) at their own pace if they felt an interest or need to.

    As for government helping... unless you live away from schools or your child cant go because of disability you dont get extra funds. You could get the school kids bonus. If you are on new start and registered for home education you do not have to attend job seeker interviews

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I really do wish that people could be polite and respectful in these types of threads. We all have so much to learn from each - mains.tream and alternate educational
    I have no issue with alternative schooling at all, and I am so grateful that many parents have the gift of choice.

    Some of the comments on this thread have me fuming however, not least because many hubbers including me have chosen not to participate at all or to participate very carefully and respectfully about homeschooling because one member in particular got very upset, so I find the blanket statements, hostility and sarcasm to other remarkably benign statements totally hypocritical and insulting.

    Anyway, binnie, you know I love you so I'll leave that there and step away x

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    Default You need to reread.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniggle6 View Post
    "They were at a botanical garden, at the beach, hiking by the coast. They were finding a snake, catching lizards, looking for fish in a pond, climbing on a canon, rolling down a hill, learning to do the "bridge", and forming human pryamids."



    My kids are total sheep and go to main****** school. Guess what? They do all these things too, after school, on weekends, school holidays. Amazing isn't it, that you can do both.

    If people want to homeschool, that's great for you. What I do find offensive, is the manner in which you and other PP run down the choices other people have made. Homeschooling would not suit me or my kids, just as "main******" schooling doesn't suit you. And calling children sheep isn't exactly an adult way of making your point.
    I have not called people sheep.
    I am not running down your choices.
    I have stated that we do what is best for our own families.

    You quoted me comparing the "working with children of different ages" in school to what my children have done this week during school hours.

    Do you not like discussing the differences between home ed and main******?
    This is one difference. It's not my fault that you are offended by the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    All I saw was a bunch of kids obeying and acting like sheep.
    Perhaps you saw what you wanted to see because that would validate the choice you've made to homeschool.

    And it's possible they are just being obedient "sheep". But sometimes kids sit in a circle and pay attention because they're interested in the discussion that's happening. I'm sure that happens with homeschooling too.

    I teach DD's Ethics class and we sit in a circle and have some really impressive discussions about what the kids think. You can be engaged and interested and be quietly contemplative at the same time, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    Children shouldn't be faced with these things though.
    They're gonna get jobs one day too so should they all start child labor too?!
    You in this thread and others talk about real life. In real life:
    People actually have full time jobs to pay the bills that they have to go to 5 days a week
    They have bosses and a higher authority to answer to
    They not only have that authority at work but in life - govt, ATO, police
    They don't get to sleep in until midday bc as above, people have to work
    Thus they need to go to bed at a decent hour
    In society we need to learn to interact with jerks. At work, at the supermarket, the next door neighbours. Doing so often builds resilience and develops conflict resolution and communication skills
    In life we don't get to pick and choose who we work with. Who our neighbours are. Who our sibs marry.
    If life and work, we have to work to time lines. They are often assessed. I have 2 weeks to pack a 4 bedroom house, that's my time line. My husband has his boss assess his work.

    Sound like school?

    As to saying it's like child labour. Good lord. Not only ridiculous, but quite offensive to cases of *real* child labour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    Very well said!

    All I saw was a bunch of kids obeying and acting like sheep.

    OP if you can't homeschool, look into a democratic style school.
    Yes because you can tell a whole school's philosophy from a photo. Look, if it works for you, then cool. My kids thrive on predictability, routine and 'acting like sheep' lol You are a huge advocate of no formal education. Your kids your choice. But you are making some massive cliches. Kids in formal education look like sheep. It's not real life. It's like some kind of kiddie 1984 lol (I know you didn't say the last one but that's certainly the scene you set).

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    Question for the homeschoolers here.. what are your hopes and dreams for your kids future careers? What do you see them doing and what have the expressed interest in doing for a career? ( depending on how old they are?)

    Is home schooling just for primary school or do you plan to home school for their high school years too?

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    Winter Is Coming - yes I agreed with your meaning of socialisation. You mentioned places your children behave in a socially acceptable manner. My children have also been to a supermarket, an airport, on trains, museums, theme parks, etc and at school too.

    My children have done or still do a number of activities including bmx racing, swimming lessons, girl guides, scouts, tae kwon do, art classes, basketball, oz tag, football, dancing and many more. Every single one of the above except swimming lessons has been done in age groups.

    I don't think there's any need to be condescending. It says more about you than me. It's interesting that someone new joins for the purpose of this thread.

    In the last week or 2 my children have climbed trees, fought zombies in the creek, played in the wooden tee pee at the park, played in the rock caves in the valley near our house and this week we are going overseas to Dubai, Ireland and the U.K. for a month.

    We really should be packing.

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    Just on sitting in a circle...well instead of sitting on a mat and putting hands up to speak we have conversation circles. The children are sitting in a circle and having a discussion. Taking turns. Agreeing or disagreeing and backing it up with reasoning. Poor kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post

    We really should be packing.
    lol same here. I'm getting the glary eye from DH. Damn needing to actually have time lines to do things.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Just on sitting in a circle...we'll instead of sitting on a mat and putting hands up to speak we have conversation circles. The children are sitting in a circle and having a discussion. Taking turns. Agreeing or disagreeing and backing it up with reasoning. Poor kids
    My first thought was a lit circle? Clearly unhappy kids....

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmashie View Post
    Question for the homeschoolers here.. what are your hopes and dreams for your kids future careers? What do you see them doing and what have the expressed interest in doing for a career? ( depending on how old they are?)

    Is home schooling just for primary school or do you plan to home school for their high school years too?
    My kids are 12, 10, 7 and 3. My 10 year old loves cake decorating and is into fashion so i could see her in a creative career. A cake maker, cook, fashion designer or interior designer. She also enjoys writing stories.
    Miss12 loves Anime. She loves drawing, writing, sports and fitness so a career in those fields.
    My 7 (soon to be 8) year old loves cars. Anything to do with cars. Also leggos, comic books, dinosaurs, beach combing, footy (my 12 year old love's footy too and has said she either wants to work or play afl or work with animals). He loves video games too and has mentioned being a game tester
    3 year old loves trains. He loves playing outside, climbing and jumping, eating, babies, animals..

    My kid's can have whatever career they want. Its for them to decide.

    Yes i definitely plan homeschooling (unschooling) for as long as they want. That includes high school. When they're older they can look into tafe or uni or working.

    We all volunteer at community meals and i volunteer in an op shop. My kids sometimes help out too.


 

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