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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgeorge View Post
    @Treens73 hi im going well. I had a few cramps and watery pink spotting, few decent sized stains on wed night. Scared me a bit as i sat there for 10 mins was waiting for blood to start gushing out and the cramps to get worse but that didnt happen thank the universe. I wacked 800mg progesterone up me clacker laid down and fell asleep telling myself its common and nothing i can do. Slept soundly and thurs morning just brown dried blood. No more cramps or spotting since then. I do wonder what happened in there but pleased that i managed to deal with it so well and very thankful nothing else has happened. Yes i am having a scan at 6+3weeks simply because I'll be at my fs clinic having intralipids on that day anyway do check there is something there and in the right place, might be to early for a heartbeat so they said i would have another one at 7 weeks for heartbeat. Hope you are going well too xox
    @rebecca72 hi, there is no normal imo. Some clinics freeze so-so embies which i think sux coz it gives you false hope and costs a fortune to fly back for poor odds. A normalish expectation for 10 eggs from young healthy as women is about 2 excellent day 5 blastocytes. Some ladies get lucky and get 2-4 for the freezer, espesh if their donor had more than 10 eggs retrieved. I got 2 frosties in my first own egg cycle, 1x bfn anx 1 didnt syrvive a few hours past thawing, no frosties in our 2 full donor egg cycles or my only donor embryo cycle and i think i "only" have 1 bubba on board. Some clinics overstimulate their donors at the risk of embryo quality and the health of the donor but Dr.nikos would never do that. Thats one if the things i really respect about him. I am sorry though that you didn't get frosties but i do think having 2 excellent blastocytes is pretty standard, more than that is lucky. Hope that doesn't sound too harsh, i dont intend it to be. Sometimes you can actually have too many embryos especially if they freeze average-poor quality then you have to suffer the time and $$$ to use them all up with little chanceof success. Ive never heard of anyone from greece donor thread or south africa donor thread having more than 6 excellent blasties, i.e. 4 for the freezer if my memory serves me correct. I would have also loved to have the possibility of a genetic sibling waiting for us in the freezer without having to pay for a whole new cycle or wondering if that will even be possible too but twas not to be, so i think i know how you feel. Hope that helps. xox
    Gorgeous girl thanks for feedback
    Hope everything goes well with you
    I will soon have two put back and one in the freezer.

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    @Phia so pleased to hear your update, its so nice at each stage when things go to plan xox have you checked out the bakery directly across the road from president hotel? It has a red sign. Right near the clinic. Its frucking awesome food, coffee, displays are gorgeously scruptious and theres good free wifi - the code is up on the wall near where you order the coffee and the staff are lovely xox

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    @gorgeousgeorge, that would have been scary. Glad you handled it like the strong woman you are. Best of luck for your scan, you may see the heartbeat at that stage.....exciting

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    Hi @gorgeousgeorge glad you ok & feeling better x

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    Just one more for the record IMG_20170526_192127.jpg

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    Hubs got this one & its different but who cares the lines darker 😁

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    @Treens73 yes it was scary to be honest. Im tempted to poas but then figured hcg would drop slowly if it was dropping so it would still show a positive anyway. I thought id try and wait a few more days and poas then to see if the line was lighter but then i wouldnt really know if the urine was more diluted etc so thats not really a good scientific way to diagnose myself anyway. Ive become a bit more of a philosophical thinker as an unexpected bonus from living through ivf hell. Ive come to believe that life doesnt work like a narrative story where good guys win in the end or the hard work guarantees a good outcome. So i dont believe that there is a set quota of hardship or goodness thats doled out to people. So just because ive tried so hard for so long or spent so much money, that doesnt mean that im now guaranteed or due for the good stuff. Life just randomly throws **** at you and you deal with what you get. So, im not morbid or negatively thinking, i feel like im walking around with my eyes wide open and i see life for how it really is. So its a good thing, i think.

    I also think, and i hope this also isnt to confronting or upsetting to others to say but, i think that being a mum or even a human means that the instant their is life and love, this comes with the fear of loss and grief, so...i could think, what if my little tadpole baby dies tomorrow? or the next day or the next?or what if they stop kicking the day before their due? what if the die coming out? what if they die while im holding them for the first time? what if they drown in the bath as a toddler? what if they get backed over by a 4wd in the driveway when they're 4? what if they get leukemia when they're 10? what if they go driving with friends and crash when they're 17? what if they get cancer in their 40's?. ..so i guess you cant not try to have a baby because you cant guarantee the outcome. I just find this real honorable, noble, brave, beauty in human beings and their capacity to seek love despite the terrifying what if's and our bizzarre willingness to seek love at all costs despite the corresponding pain and grief that inevitability comes with the risk of loving a living thing. Humans are incredibly brave and amazing to me. I think about this with my cats because its pretty much guaranteed that the best i can hope for is to watch them die before i do and despite how painful that will be, i wouldn't give up the joy and love i feel for them despite the grief that will come. Even if i only had them for one day and then suffered through the loss of them, that one day would have been worth it, without a doubt in my mind. So i think like this about the little one in me. Having been pregnant for the last 21 days has been absolutely amazing and worth it no matter what happens. If being a mum means leaping off the cliff of love despite the fear of loss, then im already a mum and im just grateful to have had that xox (If this post is upsetting to anyone because of the way ive mentioned angel babies, please feel free to let me know and im more than happy to remove it xox)
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    @kefbub keep em coming! Stick porn pics are much more uplifting than my bloody philosophising! This is what comes from spending too much time in athens, birthplace of philosophical thought and our dreams coming true ;-) xox

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    @gorgeousegeorge for us Athens was also a very special place, we spent a few hours at each historical site & we both really connected in it was pretty cool. I love hearing your stories x

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    @gorgeoysgeorge, it's like you're in my head!! That is my whole way of thinking too. In my first pregnancy i was cautiously excited but I kept thinking that realistically so many things could go wrong at any stage that it would be a complete miracle if I got to the end and had a healthy baby....well that's what happened, perfectly healthy little girl. This time I feel more positive because I know it can all go right but even if it doesn't I will handle it and life is still pretty amazing.
    I lost both my parents in the space of 3 years and I'm an only child so this is my own little family that hubby and I are making, it's pretty amazing.

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