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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    We have a school in our community that is extremely fundamentalist. I know someone who is a teacher and did relief work there for a short period. She told me she stopped accepting days because of how they handled the creationism vs evolution issue. Basically, they have to teach evolution to be able to access govt funding (they are obviously private). But according to this teacher 'teach' is a loose term. She told me they would outline evolution and the physics/science of the Big Bang..... then completely debunk it with the Old Testament and tell the kids why evolution are the teachings of the Devil. And I'm not exaggerating
    This absolutely shocks me, in my obviously naive little bubble I was convinced this was not possible, in a case like this I would seriously rethink my stance on the issue. While I wouldn't call it child abuse, it's just so wrong, and I wonder if the parents are aware?

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    I'm agnostic and opted out. So imagine my surprise when my preppy got into the car one day talking about the man who died and came back alive. It was just before Easter so I thought oh maybe they covered it, but wasn't happy. Then I found colouring in leaflets in her bag of Jesus being crucified! I'm like if this is opting out of RE I would hate to see opting it. I raised it with the school and it turns out my daughter accidentally went to RE. So relieved I thought they were trying to sneak her religion!

    As others have said I would like an overall class that covered all religions and beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    We have a school in our community that is extremely fundamentalist. I know someone who is a teacher and did relief work there for a short period. She told me she stopped accepting days because of how they handled the creationism vs evolution issue. Basically, they have to teach evolution to be able to access govt funding (they are obviously private). But according to this teacher 'teach' is a loose term. She told me they would outline evolution and the physics/science of the Big Bang..... then completely debunk it with the Old Testament and tell the kids why evolution are the teachings of the Devil. And I'm not exaggerating
    This is how I was taught evolution and such at my Christian high school. Similar to the way we were 'taught' other religions.

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    Has anyone looked at the national curriculum? I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly but it looks as though evolution is not studied in school until year 11-12. And by then a lot of students might have dropped science all together (I was one such student back in my high school days). So if I'm understanding the curriculum framework correctly, there is a very good chance that a huge portion of students in Australia have actually never been taught and never will be taught the theory of evolution. This is quite disturbing, considering the only explanation for our existence that many students will be exposed to in school is "creationism", if they either go to a religious school or have not opted out of scripture. I guess it's up to parents to educate their kids..

    http://www.australiancurriculum.edu....condary#page=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    The fact that he says everything we know and have learned about the planet and solar systems, speed of light etc, etc is all wrong is just mind blowing .
    Where did he say that? I would be really interested to hear more about it!

    I recently watched a lecture he gave to a group of Canadian university students about the beginning of the universe and it was mind blowing to say the least.. I know this is now going off topic a bit, but I learned more about the universe and the Big Bang in an hour of watching his YouTube video than I had learned from all the years of studying science in school (granted, it wasn't long, since I hated science and dropped it as soon as I was able to).

    I'm inspired and motivated to learn more about physics, biology, cosmology.. it's freakin fascinating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparklebug View Post
    This absolutely shocks me, in my obviously naive little bubble I was convinced this was not possible, in a case like this I would seriously rethink my stance on the issue. While I wouldn't call it child abuse, it's just so wrong, and I wonder if the parents are aware?
    Oh they are not only aware they fully 100% support it. This is the Brethren group. They have come out in the last decade, but they are still totally Old Testament, speaking in tongues, evangelising on street corners types.

    What makes me angry is not they are extremely fundamentalist in essence. Each to their own. It's that these kids are, in 2017 not only being taught this rot (the Creationism part, not religion in general) but they continue to be funded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    Has anyone looked at the national curriculum? I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly but it looks as though evolution is not studied in school until year 11-12. And by then a lot of students might have dropped science all together (I was one such student back in my high school days). So if I'm understanding the curriculum framework correctly, there is a very good chance that a huge portion of students in Australia have actually never been taught and never will be taught the theory of evolution. This is quite disturbing, considering the only explanation for our existence that many students will be exposed to in school is "creationism", if they either go to a religious school or have not opted out of scripture. I guess it's up to parents to educate their kids..

    http://www.australiancurriculum.edu....condary#page=3
    While evolution itself mightn't be (I'm studying primary not secondary so don't know the Outcomes) even in primary school stuff like dinosaurs, volcanoes and geological outcomes exist. We know volcanoes are often tens of millions of years old, and that geology shows us the bands of time. So there is heaps of stuff from K-10 that kind of skirts around evolution if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Oh they are not only aware they fully 100% support it. This is the Brethren group. They have come out in the last decade, but they are still totally Old Testament, speaking in tongues, evangelising on street corners types.

    What makes me angry is not they are extremely fundamentalist in essence. Each to their own. It's that these kids are, in 2017 not only being taught this rot (the Creationism part, not religion in general) but they continue to be funded!
    Wow! Mind blowing that people want this sort of curriculum for their children, in such an extreme case I would perhaps be inclined to agree that funds should be cut.
    As I said though my experience at a catholic school was nowhere near so full on, they were very open to discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    Where did he say that? I would be really interested to hear more about it!
    I listened to this last month, I have the memory of a goldfish though so I will have to listen to it again to be able to write about it here.


    Really easy listening as you potter about the house if anyone is interested.
    No visual needed, I just like to see the faces when talking if there's the option.



    Or on podcast.
    http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/lawrence-krauss

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    While evolution itself mightn't be (I'm studying primary not secondary so don't know the Outcomes) even in primary school stuff like dinosaurs, volcanoes and geological outcomes exist. We know volcanoes are often tens of millions of years old, and that geology shows us the bands of time. So there is heaps of stuff from K-10 that kind of skirts around evolution if that makes sense.
    I'm not sure primary school students are capable of making the necessary connections between these areas of science and the idea of natural selection. Indeed, if natural selection is not even touched upon in primary school, they are given absolutely no explanation as to how humans came into being, other than the Adam & Eve story. And while learning about the age of the earth (or even the universe) is important and is a critical part of evolution, the "meat" of the theory comes down to heredity, survival of the fittest, gene mutation etc.


 

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