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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    Do we work at the same company lol?!
    I think its sad that it seems to be becoming normal here. And the company claims to have a great working culture. And do yearly surveys of staff and their opinions in work/culture.

    If people are honest and say its terrible and then the staff get told they are ungrateful and are lying and that its worse in other jobs etc etc.

    My job is not even specialist. Or well paid. I am not a manager. Or team leader.

    Even DH's work (engineering/mining) have less overtime expectations. He honestly maybe works overtime for a week every 6 months or so because of a deadline. And its usually an hour or so and he gets paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybeeno1 View Post
    I haven't read the article but it is all to common nowadays with the owner saying they can't afford to pay the wages. There was a case a few months back in Brisbane I think it was where the employer being a 7 eleven was paying his staff but asking for a portion back ? Correct me if I'm wrong about that
    There were a few issues with 7/11's.

    The one you mentioned is overseas employees on visas were paid the correct amount but then mase to withdraw half of it in cash to return to the owner.

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    Default Unpaid extra hours

    I'm on salary and don't get paid OT or TOIL. I rarely do more than 15 mins overtime here and there, if I'm there any later than that my manager comes and shoos me away and tells me to go home because she's awesome. There are some client facing roles in my company where unpaid overtime is expected but it isn't frequent; but if you have a client with an urgent requirement you need to stay until it's done. It's a very flexible company though, e.g. During my pregnancies if I needed to finish early / come in late due to an appointment, I didn't have to put in a leave request or make the time up. So I don't mind not getting paid for my bits and pieces of overtime because i get "free" time off anyway.

    I think what was requested at Coles was horrendous and there's no way I would have agreed to do that when I worked in retail. I feel sorry for the Managers, back in 2009 my Department Manager was on $42k, rostered to work 100 hours per fortnight which is only $16 per hour but would regularly do 11-12 hour days. I was working part-time as a supervisor with only a little bit of responsibility and was on about $20 per hour.
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    I'm on salary and don't get paid overtime. I probably only do an hour or so a week anyway. My work is really flexible and I don't put in leave forms for hospital appointments etc. My manager basically doesn't care what hours I do as long as my job is done.

    I'm the same with my staff. I don't clock watch them and if they need a morning off for something I don't question it. We are all adults and I expect everyone to act like one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    There were a few issues with 7/11's.

    The one you mentioned is overseas employees on visas were paid the correct amount but then mase to withdraw half of it in cash to return to the owner.
    Yep that's the one

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    I haven't worked for a number of years but my last job I was on salary for $38k and contracted to work 38hrs but the standard working week was 40 and it was expected you work at least 40hrs. I regularly worked 5-7 hours overtime each week with no compensation. This was just a basic accounts payable position.

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    Default Unpaid extra hours

    My job is salaried but operates differently to most jobs. I'm employed at 0.6 FTE at the moment which is 22hrs a week. We get allocated a 'workload' for the whole year which differs according to your hours and seniority.
    So I have a set amount of work I need to do across the year but it is heavily concentrated in the March-November period (I'm a university lecturer). So in those times even though I am only employed 22 hours a week I might need to do 30-50 hours to get the work done. When I was full time I might work up to 60-70hrs a week at times. There's no extension to deadlines and no sharing the load so it just has to be done.
    Week 4 has just started. I have had 2 nights off work in the last 18 days. I work every night til 11 after dd goes to sleep and every nap during the day. She goes to child care 3 days x 6-7hrs. It's very tiring. Also as I'm studying too so it sucks that the busiest time of work is also busy for me personally
    The trade off is that in the quieter times of the year I can take days off to make up for the ridiculous hours. I also don't have set working times and I can work from home whenever I want so I have enormous flexibility which I don't think you could find elsewhere. It's hugely autonomous which I love, it really suits me. But it's exhausting too and I hate the pressure of having to work every weekend and so does my DH. Right now I'm sneaking 10 minutes to lay down because my back is killing me but I have to get back on the computer.
    My DH is hourly paid which makes his job lucrative at times (like now when he's away for a month working 75 hours a week he went on salary at one stage and it was terrible for him financially so he's trying to remain hourly paid as long as possible!!
    ETA - even though my workload fluctuates and I have flexibility across the year it definitely wouldn't even out, I would average more than 22hrs per week across the year it's part and parcel of the job.
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    Nope, I don't get paid for all the hours I work. I get paid by hour but can't claim extra hours as I'll be told off/there's no room in the budget. So I often do unpaid prep & reading for classes/tutes but I'm only paid for the actual class or tute time.

    I don't think any unpaid work is reasonable. Salaried or wage.

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    Time off in lieu here.
    They don't pay overtime but we have other recognition schemes which would be given if you went above and beyond.

    As a working mum, the time off works great. It allows me to get to special presentations at school and what not, so I'm very happy to help my work out when required.

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    Default Unpaid extra hours

    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    I think its sad that it seems to be becoming normal here. And the company claims to have a great working culture. And do yearly surveys of staff and their opinions in work/culture.

    If people are honest and say its terrible and then the staff get told they are ungrateful and are lying and that its worse in other jobs etc etc.

    My job is not even specialist. Or well paid. I am not a manager. Or team leader.

    Even DH's work (engineering/mining) have less overtime expectations. He honestly maybe works overtime for a week every 6 months or so because of a deadline. And its usually an hour or so and he gets paid for it.
    It is sad. And frustrating. It makes me feel undervalued. The company I work for used to be ok - we would get TIL for whole extra days worked but they were recently brought out by another company who put an end to that. I need to go overseas for a week and will get paid for 3 out of the 7 days I'll be away (working 12 hour days). So working 84 hrs (which the company will be paid for by our client) and I will get paid for 22 hrs. Feeling jaded! It's like things are going backwards. I'm in the same industry as your DH.

    Agh maybe I just needed a whinge and my DF is sick of hearing me whinge about work so thanks for listening ladies.


 

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