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    They do pretty well for themselves. if there is money to spare in healthcare staffing I think it should go to nurses, allied health, support staff.
    Would love to know where all this spare money is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    *Some* might.

    But they also get paid for it, and recognition in their own fields.

    No, I think the award is for more deserving work than that. Look at Rosie Batty. All the terrible things that poor woman has been thorough. And yet she works tirelessly for others so that they may not go through what she did.

    Or consider someone who works in science to find cures to the cruel and painful diseases from which some people suffer. The surgeons who will risk their jobs to do surgeries that most deem 'too risky.' The animal rights activists who put themselves on the line to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

    Those are things truly deserving of the award IMO.
    Not 'might' but they actually do.

    The amount of money they earn is not why they are nominated. It is for what they do in the community and/or for work with social issues.

    Adam Goodes - he did a huge amount of work for Indigenous Australians and for racism in sport and the wider community. Why should the fact he is an AFL player make him ineligible or somehow not able to be nominated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    Not 'might' but they actually do.

    The amount of money they earn is not why they are nominated. It is for what they do in the community and/or for work with social issues.

    Adam Goodes - he did a huge amount of work for Indigenous Australians and for racism in sport and the wider community. Why should the fact he is an AFL player make him ineligible or somehow not able to be nominated.


    I wasn't singling out Adam Goodes per se, and I understand the work he did for the community. But Dawn Fraser? Jack Brabham? Mark Taylor? Robert de Castella? When you look down the honor roll, these sportspeople don't have anything next to their names other than the sport for which they were famous (unlike Goodes's.)

    Lee Kernaghan? Paul Hogan? Seriously? Many people do work for the community but is it of the same standing as contributing to medical advancement, protecting the environment and saving lives?

    My point is that there are merely some winners of the award on the list that are more deserving (IMO) than others. And it's ok if you feel otherwise, but my opinion is just as valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    Not 'might' but they actually do.

    The amount of money they earn is not why they are nominated. It is for what they do in the community and/or for work with social issues.

    Adam Goodes - he did a huge amount of work for Indigenous Australians and for racism in sport and the wider community. Why should the fact he is an AFL player make him ineligible or somehow not able to be nominated.
    GO Foundation, which Adam Goodes and Michael O'Loughlin founded, is a great example of putting things back in to the community. They pay all school expenses for a number of Indigenous students based on academics.
    Sounds pretty deserving to me ☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    *Some* might.

    But they also get paid for it, and recognition in their own fields.

    No, I think the award is for more deserving work than that. Look at Rosie Batty. All the terrible things that poor woman has been thorough. And yet she works tirelessly for others so that they may not go through what she did.

    Or consider someone who works in science to find cures to the cruel and painful diseases from which some people suffer. The surgeons who will risk their jobs to do surgeries that most deem 'too risky.' The animal rights activists who put themselves on the line to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

    Those are things truly deserving of the award IMO.
    People can be considered deserving based on more than a select few fields.

    I'll use Adam Goodes as an example again, because he was the most recent sportsman to receive the award. Closing the gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians is really important. If someone is using their fame as a platform to help close that gap, he should be given credit on a day that highlights the problems the owners of this land still face.

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    Maybe they thought Paul Hogan did a lot for tourism lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post

    I'll use Adam Goodes as an example again, because he was the most recent sportsman to receive the award. Closing the gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians is really important. If someone is using their fame as a platform to help close that gap, he should be given credit on a day that highlights the problems the owners of this land still face.

    He may be the most recent example but I wasn't referring to him specifically when I made my original comment. As I said above, I simply believe there are people on the list of winners who are more deserving than others. I don't quite understand why this has become yet another 'race related thread' when my original comment focussed on both sportspeople AND people in the entertainment industry equally?

    Off track for a moment...But this is why I don't often comment on these types of threads. For some reason it seems that you're not allowed to have an alternative opinion here, and if you express it (even if you do so politely) you either get flooded with slabs of quoted text in what I can only assume is an attempt to 'prove' why you are wrong, or you get ganged up on.

    Why is it that no-one can accept that some people simply have differing opinions to theirs? I respect other peoples thoughts and accept them as they are.

    I want make it clear also that I'm not referring to your post specifically, @atomicmama, it is just a general comment. It irks me that many people here say they love the threads where there can be a bit of banter, but it's only ok if we all agree apparently

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