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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    I'm worried about the same happening here as in Germany, Sweden, France, Italy, Greece...
    And what is that exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticFalls View Post
    Hey I'm proud of australias history. I do not find it shameful.
    In relation to inclusion it is shameful.

    Not only to do with the First Fleet but in addition to that the stolen generation and the treatment of refugees.

    What's there to be proud about with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    When was the last time you were in Ireland?
    I have been to Ireland and Northern Ireland many, many time. I last went in 2014. Going in May for my husband's brother's wedding. My Irish in laws just went home after visiting for Christmas. My husband is Irish. I have Irish heritage on my farher's side so please don't try and make out I don't know what I'm talking about.

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    Default Being Australian.

    But I don't find it shameful trinklify. I'm a proud Aussie. Just move on from the past.

    If you keep looking backwards you will just trip over. Acknowledge the past and move forward!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooch View Post
    And what is that exactly?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6832391.html

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...d65045e65e141d

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ch-church.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7457196.html

    Look,it goes on and on,and to be honest,they're not even reporting the half of it.

    Maybe it all feels too far away to you (I don't know where you're from) but I'm from there, I know these countries, I've been to them I have friends from them.
    It's out of control. I know people in Europe are feeling like they're on the brink of war. That is the talk. It's not a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I have been to Ireland and Northern Ireland many, many time. I last went in 2014. Going in May for my husband's brother's wedding. My Irish in laws just went home after visiting for Christmas. My husband is Irish. I have Irish heritage on my farher's side so please don't try and make out I don't know what I'm talking about.
    I didn't try make you out to know nothing.
    I asked becuase I know Ireland is full of refugees right now.
    Mostly African.
    To say we can't be held in comparison to Australia is ridiculous.

    Don't forget the Irish had to flee to survive too.
    And that was from our own wonderful neighbours at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6832391.html

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...d65045e65e141d

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ch-church.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7457196.html

    Look,it goes on and on,and to be honest,they're not even reporting the half of it.

    Maybe it all feels too far away to you (I don't know where you're from) but I'm from there, I know these countries, I've been to them I have friends from them.
    It's out of control. I know people in Europe are feeling like they're on the brink of war. That is the talk. It's not a joke.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rorism-6977099

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...preaches-unity

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    I'm not going to go into all the arguments here - but what I will say regarding that "controversial" ad with the women in the hijab (presumably Muslim) is that, in my experience, the two groups of people most excited about Australia Day, and for whom it has any real significance, are bogan d!ckheads, and new migrants attending citizenship ceremonies. That billboard is perhaps meant to represent new migrants who have just been to a citizenship ceremony - and welcoming them is the Australian thing to do, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    I didn't try make you out to know nothing.
    I asked becuase I know Ireland is full of refugees right now.
    Mostly African.
    To say we can't be held in comparison to Australia is ridiculous.

    Don't forget the Irish had to flee to survive too.
    And that was from our own wonderful neighbours at the time.
    when my husband was growing up in Cork, everybody was white Irish Catholic. When I was growing up (we are the same age) it was very multicultural (even at catholic school)

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    Default Being Australian.

    I've been reading along and in parts I can see where you're coming from @Phony, but then I read the articles you posted.

    Those media articles are fear mongering, of course migrants commit crimes - but so do citizens (either natural born or on paper) of any country, I blame it on the 'migrants' is an absolute joke.

    Unfortunately it's the uneducated bogans who read this **** and think there's something to worry about which breads fear, which breeds hate. Then we are back to square one.

    Problem is people may be fearful and I can't stop people being fearful (in fact I am too, so much I don't ever want to go to an AFL grand final ever as I fear an attack - but that's an attack by extremists, not the thousands of Muslims living here peacefully) but unfortunately not everyone can understand the difference, however they wouldn't be fearful if they a. Had all the facts b. Wanted to listen to all the facts c. The media didn't breed fear and therefore hate with their ridiculous and storylines created purely to do just that and d. Seeing women in hijabs and other inclusive images being used in everyday life showing the uneducated that they are just that - uneducated and they are fearful under false pretences!
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