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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    You really think it would be appropriate to force a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want, because the father didn't consent?
    This!
    Ultimately, I am pro choice because of bodily autonomy. I don't think that choice should ever be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    You really think it would be appropriate to force a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want, because the father didn't consent?
    Until the day they learn how to take a baby out of a woman who wants a termination, and put it in the man who doesn't want to terminate to carry for the rest of the pregnancy, then the woman will always have the final say. It may not be "fair" but that's life unfortuantely. Life's not fair. The woman carries the baby, so she gets the final say.

    I don't think anyone should be able to opt out financially once the decision has been made to keep the child, the childs rights are the most important once that decision has been made. Even if the father wanted a termination, as discussed above, not his body so not his choice unfortunately for him.

    Everyone is always about fair this and fair that, but seriously, life just doesn't work that way. Yes I feel sad, very sad for any man who is in a situation out of his control, ESPECIALLY those who WANT to keep the child but don't get to make that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    You really think it would be appropriate to force a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want, because the father didn't consent?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    Yes.
    Wow. So a woman should be forced to carry and birth an unwanted baby and take on all of the associated risks because a man has more say over her body than she does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty22 View Post
    Wow. So a woman should be forced to carry and birth an unwanted baby and take on all of the associated risks because a man has more say over her body than she does?
    Yes. Woman knows that by having sex you might get pregnant. She knowingly takes this risk. If one parent wants the child I think that child has the right to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    Yes. Woman knows that by having sex you might get pregnant. She knowingly takes this risk. If one parent wants the child I think that child has the right to live.
    Wow. How far does this go? Children conceived in abusive relationships? How about by rape or incest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    Wow. How far does this go? Children conceived by rape or incest?
    Wow there a lot of wows. I can see my pro-life view is in the minority. That's fine. It doesn't make me change my view though.

    Babies convinced by rape or where the mother life is at risk (and probably other situations) I think are exceptions.

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    Pro life is one thing. Allowing someone else to make the decision is something else entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    Pro life is one thing. Allowing someone else to make the decision is something else entirely.
    I'm saying it should be a joint decision and if the parents can't agree then termination doesn't happen. It's is not allowing someone else to make the choice, it's about allowing the parents to make the choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    I'm saying it should be a joint decision and if the parents can't agree then termination doesn't happen. It's is not allowing someone else to make the choice, it's about allowing the parents to make the choice.
    Tbh I have always viewed forcing a woman through an unwanted and hated pregnancy to be a form of rape.
    You are forcing something into her and to stay there, despite protestations. You are forcing her to go through carrying an unwanted thing... Because you want it there.




    In regards to the OP I think it's not a black and white subject. While i can see the benefits of it, I can also see the negatives and how the whole thing would be abused. So I'm a bit of a fence sitter.

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