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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    It reminds me of a post on HONY yesterday or today abour racism. I'll leave the post here.

    “I think a lot of people live on the borderline of racism. I work in a machine shop with about thirty older guys. I don’t think there is one bad guy in the group. You’d like them if you met them. All of them love their families. But I’d say that I’ve heard eighty percent of them make racist comments of some sort. A lot of the older guys drop ‘n bombs.’ But if a black guy walks up, they’ll be friendly. They’ll even go out to lunch with him and share a meal. I honestly don’t think they see themselves as racist. Every one of them will deny it. They’ll point to the black guy that they’re friendly with. They won't point to the things they say when he’s not around.”
    So true. I actually think I'm racist. I definitely try not to be and I think it's wrong and I would never voice it as right or even voice it all, but I know I discriminate or stereotype in my head. I think HC called it complacent racism in one of the debates? Kind of ingrained racism that you don't realize you're doing.

    But Sessions' racism is worst than that and he shouldn't be put in a position of molding civil rights laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Come on. You are sick of being badgered yet you pop back in with a picture of Joe Biden allegedly being a sleeze. And ya seriously want us to believe you are an innocent person being badgered?

    Not saying you don't have a right to your opinion but geesus talk your opinion please (I love a good debate!) instead of just blindly stirring the pot.
    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    So true. I actually think I'm racist. I definitely try not to brand I think it's wrong and I would never voice it as right or even voice it all, but I know I discriminate or stereotype in my head. I think HC called it complacent racism in one of the debates? Kind of ingrained racism that you don't realize you're doing.

    But Sessions' racism is worst than that and he shouldn't be put in a position of molding civil rights laws.
    I agree. I do it too. And look back and see it for what it is. But I try and do better and hope that I can teach the next generation will do better.

    I actually saw a good spiel about racism on facebook the other day that I thought was good. Will see if I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Come on. You are sick of being badgered yet you pop back in with a picture of Joe Biden allegedly being a sleeze. And ya seriously want us to believe you are an innocent person being badgered?

    Not saying you don't have a right to your opinion but geesus talk your opinion please (I love a good debate!) instead of just blindly stirring the pot.
    It's a one sided conversation in here, all love for the democrats and hate for the republicans and nobody's really talking, just nodding along with holly and liking the Joe Biden memes.(gross).

    And anyway, when is the last time you contributed, VP?
    You only popped in because I posted and you accuse me of stirring?
    Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    It's a one sided conversation in here, all love for the democrats and hate for the republicans and nobody's really talking, just nodding along with holly and liking the Joe Biden memes.(gross).

    And anyway, when is the last time you contributed, VP?
    You only popped in because I posted and you accuse me of stirring?
    Come on now.
    What would you like to talk about with the democrats Phony? The discussion is about the republicans because they now control Congress and the White House, so yes the news is very much dominated by their current actions and intentions. I don't hate republicans, most of my family are Republicans, but even they have issue with what is going on right now.

    ETA: and people are posting the Obama/Biden memes to just try and make a little light off of what many of us find a devastating result. They're pretty innocent memes.
    Last edited by HollyGolightly81; 19-11-2016 at 22:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    It reminds me of a post on HONY yesterday or today abour racism. I'll leave the post here.

    “I think a lot of people live on the borderline of racism. I work in a machine shop with about thirty older guys. I don’t think there is one bad guy in the group. You’d like them if you met them. All of them love their families. But I’d say that I’ve heard eighty percent of them make racist comments of some sort. A lot of the older guys drop ‘n bombs.’ But if a black guy walks up, they’ll be friendly. They’ll even go out to lunch with him and share a meal. I honestly don’t think they see themselves as racist. Every one of them will deny it. They’ll point to the black guy that they’re friendly with. They won't point to the things they say when he’s not around.”
    Yeah, I've seen that with the older generations.
    In Ireland, where I'm from, back in the 1990s, if you saw a person that wasn't white, it was a BIG deal.
    A novelty. So exotic.
    Now, our children are going to school with their children.
    In my own family we have a lot of different backgrounds.
    It's just not a thing anymore, we are used to it, but for the oldies it took a bit longer to get used to. Not all but for those that never travelled or had much choices in life.

    I can only speak for where I come from, I don't know why that would happen in the U.S
    That's shameful to be still happening in our times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    It's a one sided conversation in here, all love for the democrats and hate for the republicans and nobody's really talking, just nodding along with holly and liking the Joe Biden memes.(gross).

    And anyway, when is the last time you contributed, VP?
    You only popped in because I posted and you accuse me of stirring?
    Come on now.
    I've been busy. Trust me when I say I just happened to pop in at the right/wrong? Time.

    If you honestly want to explain some points about why you believe democrats or Hillary are the worse option then I promise you I will listen with open ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    Yeah, I've seen that with the older generations.
    In Ireland, where I'm from, back in the 1990s, if you saw a person that wasn't white, it was a BIG deal.
    A novelty. So exotic.
    Now, our children are going to school with their children.
    In my own family we have a lot of different backgrounds.
    It's just not a thing anymore, we are used to it, but for the oldies it took a bit longer to get used to. Not all but for those that never travelled or had much choices in life.

    I can only speak for where I come from, I don't know why that would happen in the U.S
    That's shameful to be still happening in our times.
    It's the same reasons, where I grew up there was only one black person in my town, a mixed race boy who had a white mother (his father was gone). So there are many of us who had little/none exposure to other races or others who grew up in conflicted areas during/before the civil rights era so still hold their beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I've been busy. Trust me when I say I just happened to pop in at the right/wrong? Time.

    If you honestly want to explain some points about why you believe democrats or Hillary are the worse option then I promise you I will listen with open ears.
    She's thoroughly explained her beef with Hillary, not sure about Democrats though.

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    My issue is not necessarily the Republicans. It is that the far (extreme?) right Republicans have 'won'. And I think the Republicans that are not so right wing might feel obliged to support what they do not necessarily believe is right.

    I would love to be positive about what is going on. I tried to believe that it was all a joke and Trump would be more reasonable.

    But what he is doing is confirming that is not true. And that there are real consequences to people's rights.

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