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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy68 View Post
    Haha fair enough. I didn't mean just you, sorry, but it's a trend I've noticed
    Oh I know, all good. I was just being cheeky

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    I lost interest in the election race once bernie sanders stepped down

    I don't like Hilary Clinton but trump is absolutely vile. He can't be president. Unfortunately since it's a choice between these 2, I'm hoping Hilary Clinton wins.

    I don't think the outcome will have a significant impact on Australia.

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    I think Hillary comes across as false. Sure most politicians are but they're much better actors. For example she puts on this happy family act with Bill and many people don't buy it and think she does it for political gain (again many politicians do it they just do it better than her). There's a sense of if she would lie about being happy with her cheating husband she'd lie about other things.

    And though it is unfair I think female politicians are judged harder and are under more scrutiny than men, especially with regards to their personal life. I'm not saying it's fair or I agree with it but when I talk to people that's what I hear about Hillary.

    That's not why I dislike her; I'm not a fan of her foreign policy (to put it mildly and simply), but I don't think that's why the majority dislike her.

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    Did anyone see when Humans of New York did a couple of posts on Hilary?
    A few of the points she made where very true.
    As a female if she spoke with the same passion and mannerisms as a man she would be torn apart so has to hold back on her emotions. Which I find is very true for women in business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy68 View Post
    I find it really odd that so many people don't like Hillary but aren't able to articulate why.
    I find Clinton to be insincere, patronising, and hypocritical.

    Also because she used her money and power to defeat bernie, and he was literally the only hope USA had of real positive change. If she was truly altruistic, she would have stepped down and supported him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mama Mirabelle View Post

    She's a strong Israel supporter which will not be useful to creating any kind of stability or peace in the Middle East (though is that even possible at this point?) .
    I wouldn't say she is a "strong" supporter of Israel. She's been Secretary of State within Obama's administration for years, and I haven't seen any significant foreign policy changes in favour of Israel. In fact, just recently UNESCO voted to deny Jewish historical ties to the Temple Mount. USA (as far as I know) haven't come out and condemned this, despite the decision being absolutely disgraceful.

    But let's say she IS a strong supporter of Israel, how exactly will that create instability (or more instability?). Israel is not the state in the Middle East creating instability. It's ISIS, Iran, Syria, Turkey..

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    Out of the two, l am going for Hilary Clinton as l find Trump the chump to be absolutely disgusting. He has no place leading a country. He is a bully, a sexist, narcissistic creep who is anti immigrant! His mother was one and as far as l know he has been married to two foreign women. What a hypocritical pig!! Argh lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    I find Clinton to be insincere, patronising, and hypocritical.

    Also because she used her money and power to defeat bernie, and he was literally the only hope USA had of real positive change. If she was truly altruistic, she would have stepped down and supported him.
    I was/am a fan of Bernie but wonder whether he was too 'nice' and would've been totally run over by Trump.

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    does anyone actually like trump/hope he will win/think he's good president material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    I find Clinton to be insincere, patronising, and hypocritical.

    Also because she used her money and power to defeat bernie, and he was literally the only hope USA had of real positive change. If she was truly altruistic, she would have stepped down and supported him.
    Bernie would have been amazing, but there was no way Hillary was going to step aside. She has been aiming for presidency for a long time.
    I don't think Bernie would've been able to influence as much change as his supporters hoped. Just as Trump won't be able to if he gets in and Obama couldn't when he got in

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