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    Hi ladies - warning long post!

    I have posted on this thread back in July, but had to leave BH (long story) and have returned with a new username.

    Hello again to @gorgeousgeorge and @Rhino xx I won't double up what I said in the other thread
    Hello to all the other ladies and the new ladies.
    Thank you so much @Yasna for recommending Kostas the taxi driver. He is a legend and a true gent. He was so kind.

    So a bit of history on me...

    I'm single and have had 5 stim cycles, 2 FETs with OE and 1 DE cycle x 2 perfect blasts. BFNs on OE cycles including my TET transfer. Then an early miscarriage on my DE cycle last month. So in total I had 16 embryos transferred in the past 2 years. Day 3,4 and 5 with a combination of grading from average to excellent with a couple of poor for good measure. I'm 42 so the first 14 I took as being old eggs but now with a DE failure I thought there may be some other factors.

    The DE cycle was with Dr K and he saw me 5 times while I was there, 4 scans and I had a dose of intralipids but just one dose and not a large dose. As It was only precautionary, had no known immune issues but I asked for it. Someone asked that question I think so yes he does do them. He was super thorough and I had 2 excellent blasts transferred, my lining was over 10 and trilimnar..spelling?!?
    Everything looked great but ended badly


    Dr K recommended NK cell testing for me after that and a hysteroscopy. So it seems he does believe in immune issues. He will cater for what you want. I plan to use any immune recommendations I may get here in conjunction with Dr K.

    So I met with an immune specialist to investigate if I have immune issues etc. he done a hysteroscopy, and endo biopsy today and found I had a uterine septum. Which basically is tissue that can seperate the uterus in two at worst or partially. Not sure how bad mine was as Dr told me in recovery and I was a bit out of it. This can cause miscarriage (which I had one naturally years ago and then the early miscarriage last month) and also implantation issues, where the embryo tries to implant in/near that area as it has poor supply of blood flow etc . It's congenital so I was born with it. So he removed it whilst doing the hysto.

    I'll get full results in a couple of weeks. I plan to go back to Greece late Jan or Feb if today's surgery will cause a short delay.
    I plan to use two new donors and get PGS on the embryos. @Yasna if you don't mind can you tell me where did you get your male donor from again? I thought no you mentioned it in an old thread and you said you got baby pics? I had that also for my Aus donor but not the Greek one.

    Many thanks and good luck to all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power child View Post
    Hi @Phia. This will be my third time to Greece. I'm doing it alone - it's so hard.
    The second time in July ended in miscarriage. Third time lucky. I have every faith in it. Three of my GFs got preg straight away with DE. So I'm next.
    I think you'll get preg straight away too. So exciting for you to be planning it all.
    I'm going in two weeks. Can't believe it. Eeeeek
    @powerchild thank you for your kind thoughts. I'm super excited for you - won't be long!

    I'm so sorry about your miscarriages, it must've been so hard after coming so far ((((hugs)))))

    Hope this is the one!!! Xxx

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    Default Egg Donation in Greece #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Monty73 View Post
    Hi ladies - warning long post!

    I have posted on this thread back in July, but had to leave BH (long story) and have returned with a new username.

    Hello again to @gorgeousgeorge and @Rhino xx I won't double up what I said in the other thread
    Hello to all the other ladies and the new ladies.
    Thank you so much @Yasna for recommending Kostas the taxi driver. He is a legend and a true gent. He was so kind.

    So a bit of history on me...

    I'm single and have had 5 stim cycles, 2 FETs with OE and 1 DE cycle x 2 perfect blasts. BFNs on OE cycles including my TET transfer. Then an early miscarriage on my DE cycle last month. So in total I had 16 embryos transferred in the past 2 years. Day 3,4 and 5 with a combination of grading from average to excellent with a couple of poor for good measure. I'm 42 so the first 14 I took as being old eggs but now with a DE failure I thought there may be some other factors.

    The DE cycle was with Dr K and he saw me 5 times while I was there, 4 scans and I had a dose of intralipids but just one dose and not a large dose. As It was only precautionary, had no known immune issues but I asked for it. Someone asked that question I think so yes he does do them. He was super thorough and I had 2 excellent blasts transferred, my lining was over 10 and trilimnar..spelling?!?
    Everything looked great but ended badly


    Dr K recommended NK cell testing for me after that and a hysteroscopy. So it seems he does believe in immune issues. He will cater for what you want. I plan to use any immune recommendations I may get here in conjunction with Dr K.

    So I met with an immune specialist to investigate if I have immune issues etc. he done a hysteroscopy, and endo biopsy today and found I had a uterine septum. Which basically is tissue that can seperate the uterus in two at worst or partially. Not sure how bad mine was as Dr told me in recovery and I was a bit out of it. This can cause miscarriage (which I had one naturally years ago and then the early miscarriage last month) and also implantation issues, where the embryo tries to implant in/near that area as it has poor supply of blood flow etc . It's congenital so I was born with it. So he removed it whilst doing the hysto.

    I'll get full results in a couple of weeks. I plan to go back to Greece late Jan or Feb if today's surgery will cause a short delay.
    I plan to use two new donors and get PGS on the embryos. @Yasna if you don't mind can you tell me where did you get your male donor from again? I thought no you mentioned it in an old thread and you said you got baby pics? I had that also for my Aus donor but not the Greek one.

    Many thanks and good luck to all!
    @Monty73 thank you for sharing! It so good this little thread is starting to gather a bit more steam as it's been a little quiet lately.

    Firstly I just wanna say big hugs for doing this on your own. You're amazing.

    Glad you've sorted the septum, what a surprise, before you head back.

    I'm still waiting on an email back - I will resend again. So sorry to ask about $ but his website says 5000euro for donor. Which I'm guessing is the basic DE plus drugs as extra.

    But I feel like I've seen girls say it's more, but can't find the posts despite searching!

    I'm guessing it'd be more like 7,500 with PGS? And storage?

    Thanks ladies!
    X
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    Hey @Phia
    Mine in Thessoloniki was 5675eu for the first fresh cycle then 1400 for the FET and the last one will be 1000eu.
    The clinic is very beautiful. The coordinator is immaculate in communication via email. Answering every question straight away. Always there. Always supportive. (As if you are the only person on their mind.) I throughly recommend them and they are the ones who got one of my friends pregnant twice first time and second time.
    I'm sure the prices are very similar in Athens?
    Storage I think was about 300eu

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    Hey Monty73
    Wow another single mum to be. You've powered through this - what a trouper. When your baby comes it's going to be some amazing lucky child. My male donor is from Denmark. My female is an athletic type like me.
    Good luck girls!
    Xoxo

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    Hi there @Monty73, I'm glad you liked Kostas, he's a really polite and genuine guy with a wonderful knowledge of Athens. I can't wait to go back and try this restaurant called "5f" I think, 5 something!

    Enough about the food in Athens, since I'm hungry right now and that's all I can think about, I even went back to my Greece photos and drooled. Greeknom.jpg5F.jpg

    I'm single also and did 10 ivf's on my own, this was my 10th time and wohooo I got lucky, its easier on your own sometimes. Though when the baby does come, help and support from family and friends is definitely something you cherish.

    As for the sperm donor question, Dr Kanakas said to find a donor through Cryos International, he gave me a list of the sperm that was available in Athens. Most sperm is shipped from Denmark , but there are some on ice in Athens. My donors profile had photographs, audio recording of donor and a full profile, family tree etc, very interesting. I'd love to find out the siblings my son has out there in the world, I have to ask about that one day? I have no idea if I can find them????
    https://dk.cryosinternational.com/

    Good luck to @Power child I hope you have success this time ! Never stop trying until you get what you want ! I wish you happiness and joy with a baby in your arms soon...

    I know a few girls in Europe right now, both are PUPO !! I wish them the very best luck too, one went to Genesis and another went to Embryoland. Hope they both come back happier than they left !!

    It's so nice to see some new posters keeping this thread alive, after all it's because of this place I found Embryoland and now have a son, whos nearly ONE !!

    I'm so clucky and really want another baby, I keep thinking I was only lucky the first time and it won't happen again. I come here and read your stories and feel stronger and inspired to keep continuing forward. I will pick up my little frosties and hopefully give them a warm snuggly home for them to grown in. I hope it happens and I look forward to seeing Dr Nikos again and hearing him say in his Greek accent " Don't worry..."..

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    Thanks so much ladies. @Phia I haven't got the costs yet for PGS but the DE cycle is about 6000k euros I think inc meds for the donor. I'm unclear as I paid for a sperm donor also. FET is about 1400 I think... @gorgeousgeorge and @Rhino should be able to confirm that as they also went in recent months.

    Are you waiting for Dr Nikos to respond? He's normally really quick so maybe follow up. I have a call with him in Sunday to discuss my next visit.
    @Yasna Whilst I was there I spoke to Canadian woman who had a BFP first round then came back for a sibling and she found out that day it was BFP again! She was going to stay in Athens and do another transfer if she had a BFN, so it does happen. Stay positive
    Thanks so much for the donor info, much appreciated. And I second the Greek food, looking forward to going back to eat some more!

    @powerchild thanks so much for your lovely message and glad to see other likeminded single women out there going the Greek route like you and @Yasna. Best of luck for your upcoming visit.

    Xxx

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    @Phia hi, my cycle ended up being around 7000euro, that was for donor eggs, the transfer, meds for me and donor, the donor epu, we didnt get any frosties so i dont know how much that is. :-) That didnt include pgs. I think pgs is about 2000euros in greece. They get the results back next day so you can still have a fresh transfer though i think, which is good.
    @Monty73 hey mate, you know, in a way, its kind of good that you now have a good reason why last transfer didnt work. Iykwim? It makes me feel more hopeful for your next one. I thought any fs would be able to see uterine septum on an internal ultrasound? If youd done ivf before, as you have, they usually check your uterus to make sure its a 'normal' shaped cavity and they measure the size of it to check thats normal too. But maybe they can only have that done in a laproscopy. I always thought they knew from the ultrasound. Coz wouldnt they have checked when you had endometriosis diagnosis surgery? i guess not though. But it seems really promising too that youve got all the right drs lined up doing all the right stuff and some definite information for your troubles. xox
    @Lucky8 hi was it u who nentioned prednisolone and lining. If you get more info about that, can you share it please? I was thinking of taking it empirically, just in case but interested on hearing other opinions and info to the contrary :-)

    Anyways happy weekend lovely ladies xox
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    @gorgeousgeorge my cost was about that but inc the charge for donor sperm so I thought yours would be less?
    It's strange but it's never been picked up before on all the scans I've had. But I'm thinking maybe wasn't very big so maybe that's why and I also have a tilted uterus so maybe not as visible??
    But the Dr who done my lap/hysto must have seen it but left it be.
    I think Dr S was surprised also yesterday just by the way he told me. He has already sent through photos which I have sent to Dr K. They mean nothing to me! Not sure what I'm looking at but I'm sure all will be explained when I see him on the 30th.

    I am hoping it's a big factor in my failures so I am focussing on the positives of it all rather than past mistakes by my other specialists. And maybe now I have a reason.

    Still very concerned about next time. Have you got any further on your next trip re DHs tests or using donors?

    Have a great weekend all :-) xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgeorge View Post
    @Phia hi, my cycle ended up being around 7000euro, that was for donor eggs, the transfer, meds for me and donor, the donor epu, we didnt get any frosties so i dont know how much that is. :-) That didnt include pgs. I think pgs is about 2000euros in greece. They get the results back next day so you can still have a fresh transfer though i think, which is good.
    @Monty73 hey mate, you know, in a way, its kind of good that you now have a good reason why last transfer didnt work. Iykwim? It makes me feel more hopeful for your next one. I thought any fs would be able to see uterine septum on an internal ultrasound? If youd done ivf before, as you have, they usually check your uterus to make sure its a 'normal' shaped cavity and they measure the size of it to check thats normal too. But maybe they can only have that done in a laproscopy. I always thought they knew from the ultrasound. Coz wouldnt they have checked when you had endometriosis diagnosis surgery? i guess not though. But it seems really promising too that youve got all the right drs lined up doing all the right stuff and some definite information for your troubles. xox
    @Lucky8 hi was it u who nentioned prednisolone and lining. If you get more info about that, can you share it please? I was thinking of taking it empirically, just in case but interested on hearing other opinions and info to the contrary :-)

    Anyways happy weekend lovely ladies xox
    hi @gorgeousgeorge

    the testing was with the Genesis clinic & it seems predisolone can interfere with lining quality so I beleive they may be lowering dosages to minimise impact to lining health .

    if I hear more will pass it on .


 

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