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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    Play based learning doesn't have to just happened at daycare or kindergarten though.
    Oh totally! I was just responding because the PP had said children don't need to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    School is not the real world. Being stuck in a classroom with the same people, the same age as you and being forced to socialise with people you might not like, being forced to learn from a text book, asking permission to use the toilet. Ain't the real world.
    I removed my kids because of anxiety, behavior issues, bullying but i also removed them for a better life. So they can lead their own learning and education. So they are well rested and not stressed. I removed them for more family time.

    The OP asked what people thought about daycare. I answered.
    I have to completely disagree with you there. School is the real world. When you get a job you sometimes have to associate with people you may not normally choose to, and learn conflict strategies. While you may not need to ask permission to go to the toilet, when you work in a factory with a moving assembly line you can't just go to the loo when you feel like it. Or you are in an important meeting lol My kids don't use text books at all. In fact our school made an across the board decision to do away with them and just teach. That is the education system 20-30 years ago. Adults have to go to bed at a reasonable time to get up at a certain time to go to work, just like kids at school. Sometimes you have to do tasks at work that are boring/hard/annoying.

    But anyhoo, I'll back away from this topic lol

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    At work if you don't like it you csn change that. In school children cant.

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    I agree with Delirium. It absolutely is the real world.

    I see no issue with homeschooling at all if that's what you choose to do (I don't really get the unschooling term) but to say school isn't the real world is crazy.

    I think a child who thinks they get to stay home and do no formal work of any kind ever unless they choose to is far less living in the real world than one that goes to school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    At work if you don't like it you csn change that. In school children cant.
    My point though, is every workplace and job has tasks that might be mundane or dislikable, where you have to spend 40 hours a week with people you wouldn't choose to be friends with. Sure you can move jobs, to another one with mundane aspects, other staff and a designated lunch/loo break.

    Just today my DD was complaining in the car to school she had to do a creative arts thing she didn't want to. I told her welcome to the real world sweety, sometimes you have to do things you maybe don't want to, to get where you need to. It's a means to an end.
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    That's not quite true. If you're priveleged maybe you get that choice. If you're not so much, you very well might have to stay in a job you don't like just to get by. THAT is the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    At work if you don't like it you csn change that. In school children cant.
    See I don't necessarily agree with that. I worked in a job where I sat with people I hated, it was miserable and I wanted to quit but I couldn't. I had bills to pay, kids to feed etc. The job market was crap and even if I did look elsewhere it would have been silly as I was coming up for LSL. So for the benefit of my family I had to stay.

    My DD1 has gone through stages where she's been unhappy at school (being bullied) and I daresay she would have left if we gave her the option. But instead we worked with her to teach conflict resolution skills and how to deal with certain situations. She's happy again at school and has started learning some key life lessons.

    Sorry I know it's off topic. I'm just finding this interesting and it's nice hearing about how other people do things even if it's not how I/we do them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    School is not the real world. Being stuck in a classroom with the same people, the same age as you and being forced to socialise with people you might not like, being forced to learn from a text book, asking permission to use the toilet. Ain't the real world.
    I removed my kids because of anxiety, behavior issues, bullying but i also removed them for a better life. So they can lead their own learning and education. So they are well rested and not stressed. I removed them for more family time.

    The OP asked what people thought about daycare. I answered.
    But sometimes it is the real world, when kids get older not everyone can find a job or workplace that will suit suit their every need so you do need to be "stuck" as such with other workmates who may not be the same as you, have to attend work functions or deal with clients you may not necessarily have anything in common with and have have to take set lunch breaks etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unschooling4 View Post
    School is not the real world. Being stuck in a classroom with the same people, the same age as you and being forced to socialise with people you might not like, being forced to learn from a text book, asking permission to use the toilet. Ain't the real world.
    I removed my kids because of anxiety, behavior issues, bullying but i also removed them for a better life. So they can lead their own learning and education. So they are well rested and not stressed. I removed them for more family time.

    The OP asked what people thought about daycare. I answered.
    How old are your other kids and how long were they in school for? How many different schools did they go to?

    Is it school causing anxiety or the things that happened to them earlier in their life. I don't think school can be blamed for every issue.

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    [QUOTE=Unschooling4;8584273]School is not the real world.

    That is an interesting point you make.
    There are bullies at school and there are bullies in the real world (work or even just out in general public)

    There are deadlines and time restrictions at school just like in jobs and simple everyday tasks.

    Not everyone can just leave their jobs when they get bored or dont want to follow rules. We all have bills to pay, children to feed and there just may not be any jobs around.

    I respect your decision to unschool your children and find it interesting why you choose to do that. But not all school systems and daycares are as horrible as I feel that you make them out to be.

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