I certainly am not against parents choosing a school that is best for them, looking around and not taking everything at face value. They shouldn't. I guess my point in these threads is for people to look past the numbers on myschool, to remember private doesn't always equal better. Do your homework and remember sometimes there is an amazing school in that bad suburb with not so crash hot naplan's.
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18-09-2016 18:38 #54
For me it comes down to the fact that I've taught in some of our city's "worst" schools by reputation, yet would happily send my children to school there. A reputation doesn't hold any weight with me. I value what the people involved with the school community think, but not those who are simply repeating rumors and judgement with a decided air of snobbery.
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18-09-2016 20:14 #56Senior Member
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I chose DD's school based on
size 200+ a small size provides lots of transperancy with teachers and students.
anti bullying policy
grassy play areas (too many were covered in portables and concrete)
teachers (observed during a taste of school sessions the previous year)
principal approach and manner
class sizes less than 20
buildings nicely ventilated .... So many were old and tired with poor air flow leaving students looking tired
distance to home
Didn't even look at NAPLAN but have heard it's not the greatest placement
19-09-2016 05:41 #57Senior Member
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NAPLAN is a croc. Honestly I wouldn't take it into consideration at ALL. Some schools actually "rig" the system. They don't get the children who they know aren't going to do wells it the test. Other schools who may have a high population of children with special needs get everyone to do the test no matter how well/bad they think they'll do. Also some schools teach "NAPLAN" which isn't a true measure of student's abilities. A lot of children don't cope well in that situation. In my opinion it is not a true test of a child's academic ability. I'm a relief teacher. I get to see all sorts of work from children. I can tell you now that I've been to schools where they've gotten a good result from NAPLAN but I'm left thinking how? They're writing and mathematical skills of a lot of these kids don't match the results. Vice versa as well. I really would take it with a grain of salt.
19-09-2016 06:59 #58
I had a child in my class one year with an intellectual disability whose parents were insistent that they attend the exclusive private high school that their sibling did. This school has a great reputation with waitIng lists to get in. But I knew from other teachers who had worked there that they would offer this child about 1hour each day of having an education assistant compared to the full 3 days a week they would get at the local high school they lived near. Myself and their assistant were worried that socially they would stand out, making them an easy target for bullying. Especially as none of their classmates were attending there - generally this kid would always have someone help them in the yard because they knew they were in need of that help (eg. "everyone always looks out for X"). So we spent most of their last year at school doing programs to build social skills and had many meetings with the new school to try to make sure they understood our concerns and met this child's needs. I heard from the child's mum 6 months into the year that they had been going through massive bullying and pretty much all our worst case scenarios had happened. It broke my heart.
One of the high school choices they could have sent their child to was the subject of a recent ABC doco. A school that would have been able to offer this child a wealth of wellbeing support, innovative teaching and a range of vocational training career paths well within this child's capabilities. But a school still struggling with having a "rough" reputation amongst parents.
IF I were to use Naplan to help me decide between a school, the only data I would look at is cohort progress. So if the Grade 3s in 2014 were in the green but then when they get to grade 5 in 2016 they are in the red, then that would have me asking questions.
A school I worked at in WA had Naplan scores falling each year (eg. Grade 3 in 2014 scored less than the grade 3 group in 2013, 2012 and so on.). But when you looked at those same kids in 2 years time, we were actually creating a bigger level of progress each year. What had happened in that school though was they had developed a very good reputation for inclusiveness of students with additional needs and for identifying those needs. Other schools either blatantly turn these kids away or subtly (or not so subtly) suggest their school is not the best choice for their child as they know they will drag down their Naplan scores.
19-09-2016 07:03 #59
19-09-2016 08:35 #60
Naplan wasn't even a factor I didn't know it existed until DS started school in mid 2012. He did his first test this year and scored above school average for everything.
He goes to the local school that I went to. He can walk there with his friends when old and confident enough to do do. We are practising now doing sections by himself. First part walking up my folks through the park next will be that I meet him at the walkway (2ways to get there) and we go from there.
It only has around 250 kids. When I was there it was around 500-600. Still s very nice area but there more private schools around nowadays hence numbers are lower.
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