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    My heart hurt reading that about your students Harvs I can imagine how hard it is in a 'advantaged' school who of course have plenty of disadvantage (just as I pointed out low SES schools have lots of middle income too) and no funding.

    And this kind of highlights my point. That sending your child to a low SES/ lower performing NAPLAN school can sometimes be advantageous. Bc they get the funding to provide so much more support and diverse learning opportunities..

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    VP I too went to a socially disadvantaged highschool, and upset a few not so long ago by mentioning on here that I wouldn't live in that area anymore as I don't want my kids going to those schools. But if you are deeply invested in finding the right school for your children then ask the school's what their thoughts on naplan are...if you have a school that sees naplan as important and really focus on it, but are below average, then absolutely that would raise concerns. However, maybe they perform badly for reasons that actually appeal to you when you ask.
    I look at my kids primary school, a school that performed below average in NAPLAN but produced great, well rounded happy kids with a decent education (celebrating and encouraging individual strengths and providing support where needed), to now...our great naplan and academic results, but a school so disconnected from everything else that was so great about it that it's not even half the school it used to be...and it really highlights how completely useless the myschools website is.

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    The red marks don't actually mean that the school is "below average." It means they scored less on NAPLAN than the other schools. It's quite possible that the students at the school with red lines achieved proficiency in the NAPLAN yet other schools had more children in the higher bands.

    I don't know how to be any clearer than this but I'll try one more time ...I don't care about NAPLAN. I know you do but I really don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I don't know how to be any clearer than this but I'll try one more time ...I don't care about NAPLAN. I know you do but I really don't.
    You're a naplanaphobic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    The red marks don't actually mean that the school is "below average." It means they scored less on NAPLAN than the other schools. It's quite possible that the students at the school with red lines achieved proficiency in the NAPLAN yet other schools had more children in the higher bands.
    Even if the red schools were proficient, if a majority of kids scored higher than them, that is still below average.

    I would concur that below average doesn't always mean not proficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    You're a naplanaphobic!
    My daughter is in year 3 next year and will do NAPLAN for the first time. I'm not opposed to NAPLAN. I'm opposed to myschool. My daughter's and son's reports tell me all I need to know.

    I'm sure she will do her best

    Here's my son's half yearly report marks for English and maths.

    Not bad for a school in the red, eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Even if the red schools were proficient, if a majority of kids scored higher than them, that is still below average.

    I would concur that below average doesn't always mean not proficient.
    Umm, no. Proficient is the expected band of the NAPLAN test for their year. If they are proficient, they are where they should be according to NAPLAN bands. Below average would be the bands below proficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    My daughter is in year 3 next year and will do NAPLAN for the first time. I'm not opposed to NAPLAN. I'm opposed to myschool. My daughter's and son's reports tell me all I need to know.

    I'm sure she will do her best

    Here's my son's half yearly report marks for English and maths.

    Not bad for a school in the red, eh

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    Well done - You don't need to prove yourself to me though.

    you think the sun shines out of your schools butt and there is nothing they could be doing better despite being in the red. You are happy with the school, and that's your prerogative. We keep going around in circles so I might just crack open a bottle of red ( I like red in my glass even though I'm nervous about it in my kids school) and turn elsewhere for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Well done - You don't need to prove yourself to me though.

    you think the sun shines out of your schools butt and there is nothing they could be doing better despite being in the red. You are happy with the school, and that's your prerogative. We keep going around in circles so I might just crack open a bottle of red ( I like red in my glass even though I'm nervous about it in my kids school) and turn elsewhere for now.
    I'm not trying to prove myself. I'm just demonstrating that children can still do well in what you consider to be "below average" schools. And reiterating what I said earlier...yep my children's school is in the red for NAPLAN. So what. It doesn't mean my children will be.

    Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    My daughter is in year 3 next year and will do NAPLAN for the first time. I'm not opposed to NAPLAN. I'm opposed to myschool. My daughter's and son's reports tell me all I need to know.

    I'm sure she will do her best

    Here's my son's half yearly report marks for English and maths.

    Not bad for a school in the red, eh

    Attachment 84389

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    I found my ds's schools results interesting when I got that report. They are in the red too but not surprising probably when you look at the ratio of indigenous. Ds was above average too in all subjects. How he is performing is all that matters to me.


 

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