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15-09-2016 07:16 #171
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15-09-2016 09:33 #174
Catholic schools are private, as are anglican, steiner and many non religious.
Selective schools are a completely different ball of wax. My DD is going to one and we've just gone through the whole process so I know exactly how selective works. Given it's a gifted program obviously it's going to be based on ability and it certainly isn't just NAPLAN. They sit several very difficult exams needing certain marks, and the current school is required to provide their marks to dept of Ed but that is required to rank kids who may be from the same school applying. NAPLAN is just a small piece in the puzzle, and while DD's selective wanted her primary marks, and obviously her exam marks, they didn't even want NAPLAN.
I do stand by what I said. It's by far the private schools that want the results.
Last edited by delirium; 15-09-2016 at 09:35.
15-09-2016 09:48 #175
I totally disagree public schools don't put pressure on their students for NAPLAN -
I'd say there are many parents of public school kids who will agree - many on here have already said they do - our private school does not as really what is the benefit to them? Our boys don't need NAPLAN to get into high school as its automatic entry , i would guess the public primary schools would be under way more pressure so parents can have a choice of what high school to send their kids too
15-09-2016 10:03 #176
DD got into the out of are high school and they are full to the brim and have actually gone over their planned intake numbers. So I know we were very, very lucky to get in. But I'm so glad we did and without showing any NAPLAN results
NAPLAN wise it is one of the best state high schools in our state. Interestingly, throughout the whole orientation process and open days their NAPLAN results were not mentioned once by any staff. Our area high school which is still in the top 10 (I think) state high schools, went on and on about their NAPLAN results. In the introduction to the school by the principal about 20 minutes was spent on what a great school they are and how their results compare to the surrounding private and public schools.
The only reason I know the results of the high school DD are going is that I went and had a look at their results are hearing our area high school go on and on about them.
Last edited by PomPoms; 15-09-2016 at 10:06.
15-09-2016 10:12 #177
Kinder program in childcare if funding isn't approved?
And what you wouldn't know from myschool is that my children's school has 3x the growth of the national average. In other words, the gains the students make far exceed the national average and surpass most other schools by far. That is much more important than anything else.
Let's look at the NAPLAN writing test. The NAPLAN only tests for two types of writing. Narrative and persuasive text. They do not reveal anymore which genre it will be. 2014 was the first year they didn't tell teachers/schools which genre. Can you guess what happened? Schools that were previously rushing to tutor their students in the genre in the weeks leading up to the test didn't know and were left guessing. The whole country's writing results took a dive. It's not a coincidence.
Just because people have a language background other than English, it doesn't mean they need help. Some of them (shock horror) do know how to speak English. And if they don't, they have a specialist teacher (not the classroom teacher) either working with them in the classroom or withdrawing them from the classroom. Plus there's other teachers helping too.
ETA - James Ruse Agricultural High School is the most sought after selective high school in NSW. Tops the HSC ladder every year. 97% of students from language background other than English.
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Also, a lot of catholic schools in NSW have huge class sizes, my son in a kindy class of 15 currently where my friend's daughter in the local catholic school up the road in kindy as well has 32. That teacher has 17 more students to teach and give feedback to. So my son's class could be double and there would still be fewer students for his teachers to teach. 20 is the maximum for kindy class in NSW public schools.
If your son needs intervention at school, he wouldn't need it from a teacher whose job is to help students who speak English as an additional language. That argument is moot.
Last edited by BigRedV; 15-09-2016 at 22:54.
15-09-2016 10:17 #178
I suppose that's also why I've not taken them into consideration as our school didn't mention them at all in the open days either, it's only after hearing people paying for NAPLAN tutors to get into good high schools that makes me think they must be important to some schools
15-09-2016 10:37 #179
15-09-2016 11:21 #180
Many 'elite' schools want students with good naplan results bc they believe (IMHO) it makes the school look better on paper bc they will perform better.
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