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    No, not upset, i know what you mean. It needed to be said to me and im glad in a way, because im doing what a specialist has recommended so it make me more confident in moving to de. Its like now i can say to myself, 'im doing what we both think is the best thing to do. So now that i also believe it, im glad he said it. Even though it wasnt what i thought i wanted to hear at the time. :-) So really, no success after 45? At all? :-(

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    you girls are hilarious! I was also p!ssing myself at the "stick whatevs up there" post @gorgeousgeorge. One of my friends went to one of those places on her honeymoon can you believe it and she talked about the smoking a cigarette with the vjayjay which is so horrifying...or more to the point added to my feelings of horrified (honeymoon WTF??!!)

    I was given the "I think you should stop" talk by my FS at my appointment just before we were planning our last cycle. I guess it had been brewing so it wasn't a shock (twice before two Drs had said to move to DE). Thankfully we had come to the same conclusion otherwise I would have been in pieces. I do think that its a part of their duty of care to their patients and it is hard to hear but thats a part of being a Dr I guess. In saying that though if you feel you want to try a couple more goes then I think you need to pursue it even if that means to move to another clinic.
    @Charlie74 you are doing so amazingly, Im with @Chiefsgirl I would have polished off a bottle already by this stage. Having that Plan B head on is such a good way to handle it though, just be easy on yourself though in the coming days as sometimes it can creep up on you in the days after.

    And yeah, Im gonna agree wholeheartedly that this group is nothing short of wonderful, it really is. I think its a credit to all of us about how much support (including bad a.s.s humour) we all give each other. group hugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace1 View Post
    Thanks @skeeter, we're not ready to give up after only 2 cycles (especially since one was a bfp although I did m/c, and the other a completely new protocol). We're going to try one or two more cycles before xmas and then we're done! Can I ask how old you are and what medications you were on? I'm 42 so I think Fs is basing everything on my age.
    @Grace1 I am 38 at the end of the year, I started IVF last August at 36. My plan was to have two children by the time I am forty Medications - last cycle I was on DHEA, Gonal F, Luveris, Syneral, Clexane and Prednisolone. Over the year I have put myself on various supplements - berocca, aspirin, elevit, zinc, calcium, co q10, vit e, propolis, royal jelly, curcumin, fish oil, selenium, ala, protein, l arginine and cartinine. No wonder I feel sick some mornings - I've had surgery on my stomach and I don't know where I fit them all...
    @Charlie74 I am so sorry to hear your BFN

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    @Charlie74 I just wanted to send you some more hugs before I head off to the land of nod.
    My fresh red bleeding has stopped. Very inconvenient. Tomorrows scan will be interesting. Under 5mm and I'm good to go. Over 5mm and I need to rescan on Monday. Hmmm.
    For the last 3 cycles it seems that I go to the toilet on cd24 to do a number two and I get fresh red blood. It either kicks off into a full AF or doesn't.
    What's very confusing is, as you already know, I did the OPKs and lining scans this month so know when I ovulated. If today is cd1 then I've only had a 10 day leutal phase. I've always had a bang on 14 day leutal phase. I think my thin endo lining is possibly shedding earlier as I creep closer to 42 (4 months to go).
    I asked Warrens nurse if it might be a symptom of being peri-menopausal and she couldn't say either way. I reckon Warren would have something to say about it. Most probably involving profanities and reminding me how sh*te my lining is! But still, I have a beautiful vagina. That's not going to help me retain a pregnancy though.

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    Here here @Charlie74. This group is just such a wonderful group of women and I also feel blessed to come here and laugh and cry along with you all. No one can understand like you all do and know all the right things to say. Thank you warriors.

    Afm my flight back has now been delayed by 3 hours so I'm going to miss my connecting flight in Perth. Not sure how that will work but I imagine Monday at work is going to be hard on me. I was going to poas to give me time to get over the sadness but now I'm thinking that will send me over the edge when I need to put on a happy face at work. People will be expecting to hear about my holiday and engagement. The thought of telling the people who know about de that it hasn't worked out for me makes me feel physically ill. Those pity eyes. Urgh.

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    my FS made it clear that 45 was the upper limit so the decision to stop using OE was made by them

    in other news we had our group counseling session today and it went well. it sounds like our donor will start cycling for us late oct/early nov so there's a month between cycles. this is good as I was worried about her doing back to back being too much

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    Who are you flying with @Caesardust? I know when each leg of my Qantas flights were late they just bump you on to the next available flight, an hour or so later. I find the stop overs in Perth peaceful, esp when 100 or so FIFO mining men are waiting to board their flights, but a 3 hour delay is long, esp if you already have the long stop over on that leg. I always find it tempting to POAS at Perth airport and start googling images of embryos! My treat for getting in the door at home after the 24 hour journey is to POAS before I go to bed which is ridiculous because I'm only ever 8dpo. But it's my little itch that I enjoy scratching. Uhm, actually, are you on a SAA flight but connecting to a Virgin flight? xx

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    Fantastic news @winsor. Something to really look forward to after the September Sisters have completed their cycles. Yay!!

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    You've got your lining cocktail of meds sorted now @Maxwellsmum. You know what works which is ace. It'll be interesting to see if he tweaks your protocol on your next cycle.
    Can I ask you how many days of cycling it took you to reach 6.5mm last time? Re my lining, he was threatening to move my transfer date today and I haven't even started my cycle! Uhm, I damn well hope not. My flexi flights, accom and childcare are already booked!!
    Just an out there question. Have you considered PGS a few of your 18 embryos? Is it expensive with QFG. I'd consider it if it was 'only' $600-ish an embryo. If you were transferring 2 or 3 I wouldn't necessarily raise it but transferring one at a time I thought it might be worth mentioning. Like I said, just a thought.

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    yes, hopefully I'll be joining you in your BFPs @Tahli

    I hope the airline sorts out another connecting flight for you @Caesardust - it's the least they should do.

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