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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    No need to be so sensitive - if you re-read my post you will see that I include myself in the list of people who's advice shouldn't be taken as gospel.

    Since you've opened the topic of the value of a teachers opinion (gotta say I love teachers) - do you think your advice, as a teacher online who has never met a 4 year old 11 month child (exaggerating to highlight a point), should trump the advice of the child's own preschool teacher that has been with the child 3-5 days a week for a whole year?

    I stand by my comments that the advice of ladies online who have NEVER met a child should be taken as a very general guide and should not be used as a deciding a factor if a parenting is unsure about what to do.

    Seriously, not directed at any one person , this whole to delay school or not debate is giving me the irates. It's the female BH version of the "my penis is bigger than yours" contest.
    Also, you often give sleep advice on here as a "blanket rule" for babies/toddlers you've never met. You "pigeon hole" them by making statements that they should all be following a strict nap/bedtime routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    A 4 year old's (especially boys) brain is not ready for school.

    You're always asking about research/studies. You'll find it in the link above.

    If it annoys you that much, perhaps you should stay out of them. Personally this is an issue close to my heart because of my profession.
    Is a 4 year 11 month olds brain ready? 5 year 1 day months brain? 5 year 3 months brain?

    Seriously - can you not see the ridiculousness of focusing on a specific number instead of the child? Of focusing on a strangers advice instead of the advice of a trained professional who has daily interaction with your child? Can you not agree that the age a child is ready for school may vary slightly depending on ...the child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Also, you often give sleep advice on here as a "blanket rule" for babies/toddlers you've never met. You "pigeon hole" them by making statements that they should all be following a strict nap/bedtime routine.
    Here we go - dredging up the past. That's the first sign a thread is about to go downhill.

    To clarify, I don't think all babies are the same. I don't think certain strategies work for all babies. I don't think all babies have to be in a routine (just doesn't suit some families). I just think that in a majority of cases what a parent does in terms of settling their bub to sleep impacts how much/how well that child sleeps. Not all. Not saying it's easy.

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    At around 6 years of age, children's brains go through significant change. This change makes the brain more mature and able to cope with the demand of formal schooling. It is this neuroscience that 88% of the world's countries use to base their school starting age of *at least* 6. When I said in this thread or the other one that every other country ranked above us has a school starting age of 6 or older, people brushed it off but the science is quite significant.

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    I think the issue with taking pre school teacher's opinions as the guide is that they are trained in early childhood. Not primary or secondary. Don't get me wrong, the Early childhood bachelor is just as valuable, they are experts, studying for 4 years with multiple placements. But they are experts in early childhood. They aren't the ones that teach year 3, seeing kids 4 years into formal schooling struggling. Just as primary teachers are not experts in teen education, secondary are.

    This topic is not a p*ssing contest to me, there is no doodle competition I just feel the starting age is a considerable help or hindrance in laying the foundation to learning. We would listen to a dr when discussing medical topics, to Sonja when discussing law. Why do we not listen to primary and secondary teachers when talking about primary and high school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Here we go - dredging up the past. That's the first sign a thread is about to go downhill.

    To clarify, I don't think all babies are the same. I don't think certain strategies work for all babies. I don't think all babies have to be in a routine (just doesn't suit some families). I just think that in a majority of cases what a parent does in terms of settling their bub to sleep impacts how much/how well that child sleeps. Not all. Not saying it's easy.
    No, it's not going down hill I am simply making a comparison/observation.

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    Goodnight.

    Ps my penis is still bigger than yours

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    I honestly don't see this as a competition and I'm sorry you see it that way.

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    Thanks Delirium! Totally valid point regarding the preschool teachers. There can also sometimes be a hidden agenda with the advice they are giving. Often they don't want you child to take the spot for 2 years in a row if there are zones etc.

    At the end of the day it's about your kid, what you are comfortable with and most of all educating yourself.


 

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