I should add, that I also feel very much like I could have written @Elijahs Mum's first post (except the part about studying and debating religion in my 20s). I rather feel like I would like to know more about all religions, and also admire those who have religious/spiritual beliefs as a core part of their lives.
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12-08-2016 15:08 #21
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12-08-2016 15:09 #223lilangels
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I believe some religions have too much going on. It's almost like a cult.
I believe God is like a scientist who has created human beings, animals and nature. You just have to look at the complexities of all of these and it leaves you in wonder. Looking at the creation of my girls leaves me in awe. I don't believe it's as simple as we have been created out of thin air. But I believe all God wants from us is to live a happy, fulfilled life with love.
The universe is so vast and I don't believe we are alone in this universe. It would be selfish to believe we are the only ones. What about all the planets? Surely there is life on those. Just because we can't see.
My my husband is more religious than I. I do question if God intends for us to live on after death. My husband has faith that we will, otherwise what's the point of our existence, he says. My husband has lost both his parents. He had a great relationship with both. The thought of one day meeting up with them gives him great comfort. I'd like to believe him because he is so wise.
12-08-2016 15:23 #23
12-08-2016 16:14 #24
I just re-read my post and am horrified at the plethora of spelling errors. The shame! That's probably the catholic guilt in me 😂
I kind of rambled there....
But at least my spelling was spot on.
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12-08-2016 16:24 #25
I know what you mean... my friend had the argument that technically atheism is a lack of belief and therefore committing atrocious acts in the lack of belief of something seems a bit silly. It was more that her husband seemed to be arguing that atheists are not going to commit horrific crimes. Which is bullsh!t. It didn't take long for us to pull that one apart.
I get where you're coming from. The same things also flummox me. Which is partly why I'm not decided either way. I'd like to think that although I'm not religious, I'm still spiritual... if that makes sense.
12-08-2016 17:16 #26
Hmm I hadn't considered the agnostic thing. Maybe 'desperately hopeful' would be a better label?!
I went through a phase too where I thought I believed in reincarnation but at the end of the day I just can't genuinely suspend my disbelief enough, I guess. Always searching, never finding, that's me.
It's interesting because I have an Insta account just for my planner type photos, and it seems that the planner community has a HUGE proportion of fundamental Christians. They all seem so secure and at peace and I so covet that.
12-08-2016 17:23 #27
ETA: hit post early. Basically my point is that you can have that feeling of peace with death without religion.
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12-08-2016 17:28 #28
I was raised in a Christian home (Baptist) and now have a strong faith and belief myself and of my own choosing. I am raising my kids the same way.
I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I believe that Jesus died on the cross and rose again on the 3rd day and because of this my sins are forgiven. I believe he is now in Heaven.
I believe in Baptism, but only for those who can truly understand and accept what they are doing (so not infant baptism). I believe the the Bible is the inspired word of God, written by holy people of God and inspired by the Holy Spirit. I believe that Jesus will one day return to earth and those who believe in him will have eternal life without pain and suffering.
A lot of people would and do think these beliefs insane or stupid but I guess that's what faith truly is about. What I have I lost by believing? If I am wrong I lose nothing really as I have lived a good life. If I didn't believe (as in God exists and we will be given eternal life if we believe in him) and I was wrong....it seems I might have a lot to lose? Faith is what it boils down to.
I never ever push my views and beliefs on people. If they ask me what or why I believe I tell them.
12-08-2016 17:29 #29
@harvs, you make me laugh! Not too worried about debating with him - he actually likes to debate purely from an intellectual point of view, and I don't have any strong religious beliefs to take what he says the wrong way.
Richard Dawkins, who wrote 'The God Delusion' calls himself an agnostic, because he can't definitively say that there isn't a God (or something to that effect).
On the subject of reincarnation, my friend (who was helping me debate her hubby), said she kind of believes in it, in terms of when she dies, her body returns to the earth, absorbed by a flower, and then she's part of the flower. I guess that's a cycle you could hold to? But I guess we're getting to spirituality rather than a religion per se.
We all want security and peace. More power to them to finding something that works for them, huh. Would be nice.
12-08-2016 18:03 #30
Dawkins talks about levels of atheism. Let me see if I can find it...
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