I disagree @witherwings
He might be encouraging people not to provide their names but he's not telling them not to give their statistical data.
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08-08-2016 21:36 #101
08-08-2016 22:14 #102
Interesting opinion from former head of ABS.
In short: he thinks it's wrong to make provision of name and address compulsory because it's an invasion of privacy and no statistics can be compiled from someone's name, therefore it's in breach of the census act.
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08-08-2016 22:51 #103
@rainbow road - It's always been a requirement to provide your name and address hasn't it? The only difference now is that they retain the info for 4 years instead of 18 months.
I think nick Xenophon making the statement that privacy is an "inherent human right" is a bit rich. You can't compare the requirement to provide your name on a census form to things like slavery, freedom and rights to fair trial.. I mean, really, it seems like he is just trying to get publicity.
@ExcuseMyFrench - don't you think you're blowing this privacy issue way out of proportion?
You know when you play Pokemon go, you have to agree to allow niantic to sell a wealth of data about you to 3rd parties? The app literally tracks all your movements, locations, has access to your phone data including contacts.. How are you playing this and talking about boycotting the census? I just think this is a bit hypocritical.
09-08-2016 05:53 #104
I never said I was boycotting census. I'm filling out a paper form, not doing it online. 🤔
And I guess the difference is I choose to give my information to niantic or Facebook, if I didn't want to then the option exists for me to not sign up.
Yes, you used to provide name and address on the previous censuses, but having your name and address details kept was previously opt in - now it is compulsory.
I simply shared the link because it was an interesting read and I thought others might appreciate reading it.
My issue with the census is that it doesn't provide an opportunity for me to accurately represent my family without having to jump through hoops, and frankly I think that's a perfectly legitimate reason for me to be annoyed about it. But I literally not once have said I am boycotting the census at all.
ETA: I didn't realise you addressed the Pokemon go to EMF... Whoops. Answered anyway! Ha
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09-08-2016 06:21 #105
I'm not sure what the worry with privacy is. Almost all the information I provided the government already know.
Income, workplace, hours worked from ATO. Then there is local council rates, births deaths and marriages, Centrelink, Medicare. I appreciate they aren't all linked but the info is already out there.
09-08-2016 06:43 #106
@witherwings when I play Pokemon Go I use a separate account that is not linked to my real name or real email address.
I don't care that Niantic knows that Player 56267 goes there at that time, etc.
Im happy to provide all statistical info for the census - I don't think my name is one.
The fact that the former ABS boss is against the collection and RETENTION of addresses and names can't be ignored.
ABS doesn't say what they will do with the information and what they won't do. It's like giving them a blank cheque.
09-08-2016 06:56 #107
@witherwings, this is the first year providing name details has been compulsory, as I said above. Previously, it was voluntary, and if you did provide it, it was kept for 18 months.
Privacy is an internationally recognised right. Can provide convention etc details later if you like. Sure, there may be a hierarchy of rights, but it doesn't mean privacy isn't one of them.
FWIW, I don't play Pokemon Go, and try to avoid apps etc that require too much personal information.
09-08-2016 07:16 #108
Moxy posted or the excerpt I took from it and posted above?
Doesn't this null and void any fears about personal data being taken? If it's turned into an encrypted key, that's what is being kept for 4 years.
09-08-2016 07:20 #109
A genuine question here - what is it that people are worried might happen to the census data?
From my perspective unless the data could be used for someone to steal my identity I'm not overly fussed about the whole thing.
I thought the data was things like how many children you have, size of house, income, etc. Nothing juicy!
I understand for those hiding from a violent ex partner or something but what are others worried about?
It is such a contentious issue so I know that I'm missing something.
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09-08-2016 07:30 #110
Deleted because I have to go out and cbf debating
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