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    Just saw this in my Facebook feed:
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-longer-matter
    It lists various examples of Islamic leaders denouncing ISIL and condemning terrorist attacks over the last several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post

    Yet, politicians only have to say the word “terrorism” for Australians, and especially the media, to abandon all reason and demand “whatever it takes” to “keep Australia secure”. The vague and trivial threat of being killed by an evil ideological force — unWestern, non-white, non-English speaking, unChristian — pushes our buttons in a way that far greater threats to our lives — “normal” homicide, domestic violence, preventable diseases and accidents — that kill many, many more Australians and cause persistent economic losses, do not."
    I agree that the likelihood of any one of us or anyone we know being a victim in a terror attack in Australia is slim. But I don't agree that the threat is trivial. Some really awful Australians (E.g. Khaled Sharrouf) joined Isis and did really horrific things. Thankfully for us, those things were done overseas. A number of would-be terrorists on home soil have been stopped before they could carry out their plans. I'm glad the government is taking national security seriously, although I do worry about the extent to which our privacy is being compromised to achieve this end, but that's a discussion for another topic.

    But all that is neither here nor there when it comes to immigration policy, which cannot exclude Muslims as that would be in breach of the UN treaty, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), which states:

    “All persons are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to the equal protection of the law. In this respect, the law shall prohibit any discrimination and guarantee to all persons equal and effective protection against discrimination on any ground such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status (UN General Assembly, 1966).”

    Australia has signed this treaty. It is not a law that Australia can change in parliament. So denying Muslims entry to Australia would be in breach of the UN treaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashas girl View Post
    I think you need to go back further than that.
    *one* of the the factors that affects the implementation of multiculturalism in a country is migrants holding into grudges from their homeland and continuing the "battle" once they are in Australia (I know, easier said that done to let go).

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    The reason that people think Muslims haven't denounced terrorism isn't because they haven't, it's because the media don't show it to us or you just haven't seen it.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/musli...01-glxtbp.html

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/muslim...30-10nktr.html

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...90b396a7c95e8b

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...preaches-unity

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerKat View Post
    Lol here's just a few if you can be bothered reading them all
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa.../violence.aspx
    The religion of peace website is not credible at all, it's an anti Islam/Muslim page and nothing more.

    Here's an experiment done in The Netherlands. People were read verses from the bible thinking it was the Quran.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0Zt0ODrEA


    The bible is actually way more bar.baric than the Quran.

    http://www.evilbible.com (see, I can post incredibly biased websites too)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a6863381.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ca...-a6764751.html

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    I've got more chance being killed in a car accident. My daughters are way more likely to be killed by their partners than die from terrorism. But that doesn't stop me driving everyday or make me wish my daughters stay single forever.

    Already this year in Australia, 36 women have died at the hands of their partner or ex partner.

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2014/09/04...y-the-numbers/

    ETA - the article above is a couple of years old but it paints the picture...
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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    . Hizbollah shoot rockets into northern Israel and the Israeli defence force retaliate.
    Bias opinion much? 😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerKat View Post
    But is he committing that act in the name of Christianity? Or is he a mentally deranged white person who happens to be Christian. You only have to look up on Wikipedia the number of terrorist attacks CLAIMED by IS to see that the sheer amount of attacks committed by their group doesn't even compare to the amount of non-Muslim terror attacks. I just don't see how people can deny the facts?? If you look at what has been happening in France over the past year (attacks on journalists, on innocent people at a concert, in Nice recently) I think it's reasonable that Australian's are concerned about that..... It boggles my mind that that wouldn't seem understandable even if you don't share those same fears.
    Ummm. Do you realise that *anyone* can edit Wikipedia and write what they like? That would be the last place to look for factual information.

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    The only reason there hasn't been a terrorist attack here in Australia, is because our wonderful police (State and Federal), have been able to stop them before it happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawaii View Post
    The only reason there hasn't been a terrorist attack here in Australia, is because our wonderful police (State and Federal), have been able to stop them before it happened
    Such a shame they can't seem to protect women from murderous partners.

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