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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    Ok. This makes sense now. I wouldn't have called Lebanon a predominantly Christian country at any point in time, but it probably has the largest population of Christians of any Arab State.

    Technically, there are almost as many Christians still in Lebanon as there are Muslims. But that's beside the point..

    The reason that the economy and quality of life in general went to sh!t in Lebanon is not because of the Muslim population. The Muslims and Christians in Lebanon lived in relative peace and prosperity for generations, while the country was the jewel of the Middle East in terms of tourism and finances.

    But after the 1967 Arab-Israel war, there was a huge amount of Palestinian refugees who came to Lebanon. This is significant, because included in this influx of refugees were THOUSANDS militarised Palestinians, led by Yasser Arafat, and they systematically began ****ing up the country to achieve political gains.

    It was not about religion!

    I'm only bothering to say this because I feel like you are misrepresenting the situation, and coming to incorrect conclusions, and then trying to incite fear by saying "just you wait!". I think that's quite ignorant and unfair.
    Also should be noted what began all that...Hitler (a Christian) starting a war in Europe and the genocide of the Jews... There's probably be no Israel if WWII hadn't occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert01 View Post
    Reading along during my work break. I just don't know whether to laugh or cry at your posts Sashas girl.

    You absolutely, most definitely need to provide some kind of evidence to back up your ideas. I'm sure you'll have difficulty finding it though.

    And, if you truely believe your ideas then fair enough but you owe it to yourself to test them out.
    Like I said, it's my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashas girl View Post
    And there are more who have not. There are more who have taken advantage of this country and continue to do so.
    This wasn't presented as opinion. This is you saying that I'm wrong and no matter how many productive Muslims I know there are more that are lazy and unproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    I thought Israel was responsible for/contributed to a lot of violence in Lebanon?
    That was my impression as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    But after the 1967 Arab-Israel war, there was a huge amount of Palestinian refugees who came to Lebanon. This is significant, because included in this influx of refugees were THOUSANDS militarised Palestinians, led by Yasser Arafat, and they systematically began ****ing up the country to achieve political gains.
    I did not know this. It explains a lot about the conflict between Israel and Lebanon.

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    Not sure about you girls, but I am becoming increasingly scared. Not exactly terrorised, but getting close. In Nice, there were little kids "mown down" in their prams. I am still bloody traumatised by the images of 9/11, possibly the worst atrocity we shall ever see in our lifetime, enacted in the name of Allah.

    I was in a busy shopping centre on the Sunshine Coast recently, and a kid burst a balloon. The place went silent, and I swear my heart stopped. It sounded like a shot. I had my 2 young kids and my Grandma with me.

    People may say "If you are scared, the ISIS terrorists have won". Well then, they've won in my mind, because I am scared. I don't want to die, I don't want my kids to die, and I don't want to watch others die, in terrorist attacks. Whether the terrorist is a "true ISIS" member or a lone nut-job claiming to act on behalf of ISIS, is irrelevant to me. Killing is killing.

    I do think people are almost completely fed up with the ridiculous, over-the-top, political-correctness which effectively gags people from speaking their mind. I don't believe all Muslims are members of ISIS, obviously. That's insane. But I will say this...I would like A LOT more "decent Muslims" to be publicly OUTRAGED by what is being committed in the name of their religion. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing, etc...Well, I think it is VERY important that "good Muslims" express their disgust and outrage toward those Muslims who function on their religious hatred.

    Even in Australia, when you have Senior Muslims (I have forgotten the recent blokes' names) saying that homosexuals should be killed...Australia needs our decent Muslim population to be vocally and insistently bloody outraged. And this hasn't really happened. I don't think a few Muslims saying "It's not all of us, etc" is really good enough at this point.

    But getting offended by another member on Bub Hub is a bit silly. I never do. I might think "that person's a moron", but I try to keep that thought to myself!

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    However, the conflict is not between Israel and the Lebanese Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Not sure about you girls, but I am becoming increasingly scared. Not exactly terrorised, but getting close. In Nice, there were little kids "mown down" in their prams. I am still bloody traumatised by the images of 9/11, possibly the worst atrocity we shall ever see in our lifetime, enacted in the name of Allah.

    I was in a busy shopping centre on the Sunshine Coast recently, and a kid burst a balloon. The place went silent, and I swear my heart stopped. It sounded like a shot. I had my 2 young kids and my Grandma with me.

    People may say "If you are scared, the ISIS terrorists have won". Well then, they've won in my mind, because I am scared. I don't want to die, I don't want my kids to die, and I don't want to watch others die, in terrorist attacks. Whether the terrorist is a "true ISIS" member or a lone nut-job claiming to act on behalf of ISIS, is irrelevant to me. Killing is killing.

    I do think people are almost completely fed up with the ridiculous, over-the-top, political-correctness which effectively gags people from speaking their mind. I don't believe all Muslims are members of ISIS, obviously. That's insane. But I will say this...I would like A LOT more "decent Muslims" to be publicly OUTRAGED by what is being committed in the name of their religion. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing, etc...Well, I think it is VERY important that "good Muslims" express their disgust and outrage toward those Muslims who function on their religious hatred.

    Even in Australia, when you have Senior Muslims (I have forgotten the recent blokes' names) saying that homosexuals should be killed...Australia needs our decent Muslim population to be vocally and insistently bloody outraged. And this hasn't really happened. I don't think a few Muslims saying "It's not all of us, etc" is really good enough at this point.

    But getting offended by another member on Bub Hub is a bit silly. I never do. I might think "that person's a moron", but I try to keep that thought to myself!

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    Exactly this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mama Mirabelle View Post
    My ancestors came from India which was a peaceful society until the British arrived. I come from South Africa which was a peaceful country until the Boers took over. We live in Australia which was a peaceful land until the British colonized.
    This may be the case, but we wouldn't live here if the British hadn't settled here, and I reckon it's still "relatively peaceful"! But I'm hoping this was your point?



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    Things to be afraid of... in context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    This may be the case, but we wouldn't live here if the British hadn't settled here, and I reckon it's still "relatively peaceful"! But I'm hoping this was your point?



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    I think I made my point pretty clearly.. I'm out of this thread now.


 

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