The only outcome of this is higher costs and the tax payer whinging about even more of their tax dollars going to the poor.
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01-07-2016 08:56 #71
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01-07-2016 09:02 #72
Lots say the labor party hasn't been good for a while, the Libs are the same. Turbull is just impotent and too spineless to actually DO anything. Abbott was a total nutcase. The last half decent PM was Howard. Obviously being a Leftie I didn't support his views of the world, but at least he could lead, make real decisions and wasn't a right wing bigot.
01-07-2016 09:09 #73
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01-07-2016 09:33 #74
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/emplo...imination-laws) and I believe that translates to anti-LGBT advertising being illegal. If there are anti-marriage equality ads on TV they will have to be so vague as to warrant them completely pointless.
And I don't actually think an advertisement will change someone's sentiments on marriage equality. People are either for it or against it already.
Why is a plebiscite an unnecessary waste of funds but a referendum isn't? Everyone was in favour of a referendum, the outcome of which would not actually be able to change legislation because there is nothing in the constitution that says marriage is between a man and a woman.
A plebiscite will at least allow the government and opposition to determine what the true feelings are of the Australian majority on this issue. If there is a majority in favour of marriage equality, then many anti-equality ministers have already pledged to vote with the plebiscite result. Including ultra conservative Toby Abbott.
I'm not saying it's a perfect way to achieve an outcome but don't be fooled by the labor party's rhetoric. They don't have a policy for making an actual change. If they did, why is there still no marriage equality since 2007? They managed to pass a lot of other legislation that the liberals voted against in the senate - carbon tax, mining tax, Nbn, the school halls.. Come on.
01-07-2016 09:36 #75
If you don't care about those things, then I guess it doesn't matter what their policies are. Happy voting!
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01-07-2016 09:40 #76
Under Abbott he actually significantly worsened the debt. That's fact.
01-07-2016 09:53 #77
01-07-2016 09:57 #78
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01-07-2016 09:59 #79
Howard changed the wording of the marriage act to specify that marriage was between a man and woman to the exclusion of all others so I'm not sure why you think there's nothing in the constitution that says that?
All they need to do is take out that clause. Not something they need to spend $160 million on.
Furthermore, I don't vote for either of the major parties because I don't trust that either of them will do anything about it. I genuinely do not believe the ministers will vote the way the plebiscite says (unless it's not in favour of!) even if it's 95% in favour of marriage equality.
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01-07-2016 09:59 #80
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