So the 21,000 people who arrived here in 2013 were given TPV? I thought they went to onshore detention centres for processing? I could be totally wrong though. I'd like to know
Also do you know of people are still being sent to Naru and Manus? I understand that they are still very much operational but wasn't sure if any new people were going there.
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08-07-2016 13:23 #531
08-07-2016 14:12 #532
Since they were abolished in 2008, together with "offshore" processing, all the people who arrived by boat were crammed into detention centres in Christmas Island (technically a territory of Australia) from 2008 onwards, and then on Manus Island and Nauru since 2012. There are a bunch of other processing centres in the Australian mainland but Im not sure how many asylum seekers who arrive by boat were sent there - I assume not many, since we don't hear anything about the terrible conditions of those centres.
I have a good friend who was a political refugee in the early 90s who went to one of those centres for processing for about 6 months and has been living in Sydney ever since.
ETA - sorry correction - villawood detention centre is on the mainland and is horrible as far as detention centres go..
anyway, I think it's safe to say we are all in agreement here that Australia's immigration policy is really bad.
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08-07-2016 18:31 #533
Even at the peak of boat arrivals, almost as many asylum seekers arrived by plane on visas and sought asylum that way, yet it has been found that far greater proportion of people who arrived by boat were genuine refugees compared to those who arrived with valid visas on a plane. Over 90% of boat people are genuine refugees.
Here's a source that's a bit more credible than Wikipedia
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08-07-2016 18:44 #534
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08-07-2016 19:35 #537
I asked you earlier. Have you watched go back to where you came from? I honestly think anyone who is interested in answers to these questions should watch it. It's fascinating.
08-07-2016 19:40 #538
The difference between arriving by boat and arriving by plane is that plane arrivals are not going to result in deaths at sea.
What difference does it make if I quote an excerpt or post a graph from Wikipedia if the data from Wikipedia is consistent with the "more reliable" sources you have provided? The article you referenced doesn't negate anything i have stated. It's just additional information which isn't relevant to my argument that dismantling the pacific solution resulted in an increase in boat arrivals, which had horrific consequences.
Are you arguing that most of these people are genuine refugees? I have already stated that. Are you trying to say that regardless of the method of arrival, the processing of asylum seekers is inhuman? I've already stated that too. What are you trying to argue?
08-07-2016 19:42 #539
Isn't it true that more illegal immigration occurs in Australia from New Zealand than any other country in the world?
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08-07-2016 19:45 #540
I haven't watched that documentary. I will look into it. I'm always keen to learn new things and get a different perspective on important issues. However, as I have stated before, I don't oppose immigration or taking in refugees. I think we need to take in more, we have the capacity, and I believe that a lot of genuine refugees can be resettled here and make a huge contribution to growing our economy. Every well educated and entrepreneurial person who gets resettled in this country means more jobs and more tax revenue for the government.
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