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    No matter the outcome this term of parliament will be an absolute shambles, and I doubt the government will get much of what they want through parliament, and ultimately have delivered labor a victory next election if they play their cards right and don't majorly eff up before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    No matter the outcome this term of parliament will be an absolute shambles, and I doubt the government will get much of what they want through parliament, and ultimately have delivered labor a victory next election if they play their cards right and don't majorly eff up before then.
    I kinda wish everyone would get over their egos, have a glass of beer/wine/tea/juice and just talk about where they want to be in the next 4 years.

    They *could* do so much if they just got over their stupid bickering.

    If they pass whatever budget/legislation that everyone agrees on first then at least there will be some momentum.

    I do get the senate is going to be a circus this term. I hope they realise there are more important things than opposing same sex marriage and hating on muslims. Get on with it and give everyone an equal right for adults to marry whomever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    No matter the outcome this term of parliament will be an absolute shambles, and I doubt the government will get much of what they want through parliament, and ultimately have delivered labor a victory next election if they play their cards right and don't majorly eff up before then.
    Yep I agree. They will have to water down their policies just like Gillard did to get it through and ultimately Labor will easily take over next election just like Gillard

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    Did Malcolm Turnbull say he wouldn't do deals with anyone before the election?

    Even if they do get 76 seats, he will then have to choose someone who isn't from the coalition to be speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    I kinda wish everyone would get over their egos, have a glass of beer/wine/tea/juice and just talk about where they want to be in the next 4 years.

    They *could* do so much if they just got over their stupid bickering.
    That would be great wouldn't it? Politicians actually working FOR the good of the people, not trying to just leave a legacy in their name.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Did Malcolm Turnbull say he wouldn't do deals with anyone before the election?

    Even if they do get 76 seats, he will then have to choose someone who isn't from the coalition to be speaker.
    I don't know if he did, but Shorten most definitely said that on the 7:30 report. Which was stupid as we all know he will if he has the chance to seize power!!

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    Has there been a final result yet, or are the votes still being counted.?? I think what ever party wins in the house, the senate is going to make things very difficult for any bills to get through. I think we might have another four years of frustration and nothing really achieved. It would be so nice if the politicians actually did work for the people, and thought about more than just their own egos, and their own pockets. marie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Did Malcolm Turnbull say he wouldn't do deals with anyone before the election?

    Even if they do get 76 seats, he will then have to choose someone who isn't from the coalition to be speaker.
    I don't think he said that. He did say that he was confident that the coalition will form a majority government. Will have to wait and see..

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    I don't think he said that. He did say that he was confident that the coalition will form a majority government. Will have to wait and see..
    I don't think he directly said it but the Coalition dragged Labor through the coals for making deals saying it is an 'unstable government'.

    They made a deal with Katter today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    No matter the outcome this term of parliament will be an absolute shambles, and I doubt the government will get much of what they want through parliament, and ultimately have delivered labor a victory next election if they play their cards right and don't majorly eff up before then.
    I don't think that the lower house will be a shambles necessarily. But the senate is going to be a freakin mess, and even if labor do win the next election, they will still be dealing with the "circus" of the senate.

    I hope, as others said above, that people try to cooperate in parliament in order to allow the government to do what needs to be done, to actually run the county. If that means having to compromise on social issues in legislation, this can only be a good thing.

    The idea of labor being in government next term actually frightens and frustrates me. Frightens me because they did a dismal job of running the country last time they were in government, and frustrates me because changing government every 3 years is completely counterproductive and costly when projects get cancelled and legislation gets repealed. The liberals are definitely guilty of this, but I just want to see one government in power for a good stretch of time to just get sh!t done.

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    The idea that the Libs will be in again this term, and with a hung parliament scares me lol I think there is a bit of splintering going on among the Libs supporters. The conservatives think the current lib govt is not conservative enough. Then there are the more progressive Libs who believe in the core beliefs of economic rationalism, free markets, but also gay marriage and a separation of church and state, who think they are not progressive enough. And neither are overly happy atm.

    That's why I feel a sense of empathy for Turnbull. As someone else said, he's in a no win situation.


 

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