I heard about people saying "why was she walking home alone at night?" about Jill Maher. People will always find a way to blame the woman. There was an article about a woman who was at home in her underwear when a man broke in and assaulted her. Guess what they said "she shouldn't have been half naked"...she was in her own house. It's so frustrating. And these same people critisize survivors for not coming forward. And these same people deny that there is a rape culture.
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11-06-2016 16:24 #62
Re Jill maher though the only people who really said that weren't from inner city Melbourne. It's one of safest places I've ever felt. When we lived in north Fitzroy I'd regularly run from home to Brunswick at 10pm on a week night, or into the city. You never felt threatened. I think that's part of the reason so many felt confronted by what happened - it was all something so many of us have done before.
But yep when I did criminal law we studied juries and attitudes to rape victims. Fascinating and frightening.
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11-06-2016 16:31 #63
Have you see the consent as asking if they want tea analogy?
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/28/this-n...liant-5466392/
Ok, so it isn't exactly like this, this is a very simplified analogy, but it works for the purposes. Say 2 people were sharing their teapots, and tea collection, discussing how wonderful another person's teapot looked and how they loved a good cup of tea, and extolling all the virtues of tea, and how wonderful high tea was, and so on and so forth. Would it then be right for one of those people to automatically assume that the other person wants tea, and force a cuppa on them? Yes, completely imperfect analogy, but I am sure you can work around the gaps and issues this analogy presents.
Even if consent is given, it can then be refused at any time.
Men are not prey to their "base instincts" any more than women are. In fact if a woman claimed the reason she raped a male was because he was walking around with skinny jeans/no shirt/a singlet/shorts, there is no way that would be viewed as an appropriate response, and the male would not in anyway be held accountable for walking around in whatever it was that he was wearing as a reason that he was raped.
Assault is about power and control. The view that the woman is somehow accountable for her assault also leads to issues with men being assaulted in terms of reporting and being believed, etc.
Just because a woman does not act or dress in the same manner as you does not mean she is "asking for it." Some people are naturally flirtatious. Some people are just naturally nice, or trying to not offend the person (I've seen men get cranky quite quickly when a woman who has literally done no more than smile and exchange polite pleasantries has refused a drink/dance/date). Accepting drinks/food/gifts does not mean that they want that to go any further. Some women dress for themselves (shocking thought I know). This is not about what the woman has "done," but why some men see that they have the right to react the way they do.
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In regards to physical touching I would agree with you.
As for having a gawk I don't necessarily think verbal permission is necessary. In the ops case I think 2 ladies taking risqué photos in public implies permission has been given to others present to have a gawk.
I think it's understandable and ok to make that assumption.
There is no victim blaming in this particular case as there was no victim or perpretrator. A couple of ladies put on a show and a couple of guys had a gawk. No one was hurt (apart from the OPs DH).
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