I teach year 1/2 at the moment and they are doing short, sharp reading lessons that are 10 minutes in groups of 2 or 3. If a teacher is teaching anything for 45 minutes they will lose the students whether they are 4 or 44.
It's interesting you mention the recent project segment as the guest they had on the show, Dan Haesler who is a teacher is a friend of mine who advocates for children starting the year they turn 6.
If a child turns 6 in the first year of school, they will turn 12 in the last year of primary school.
Not sure what you mean about being "kept" but out of the top 10 ranked oecd countries in education, all have a later starting school age than Australia.
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28-05-2016 12:56 #61
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28-05-2016 13:01 #62
The other thing is that even though parents in NSW have the choice of keeping their children home another year, only 11% of boys and 7% of girls are "held back"
28-05-2016 14:32 #63
I agree with you that 4 is generally too young for school. I think it should be when you turn 5, you start the following Jan.
By being "kept" I mean that kids stay at home a lot longer here generally than in other countries. They do not have to lead normal adult lives until much later than people in other countries.
28-05-2016 14:40 #64
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28-05-2016 15:09 #65
Personally I think doing school is blo0dy hard work! I dont think a year 11 or 12 kid is 'not engaging in the real world'. When I was doing year 12 at age 17, I was at school from 8.45-3.15 all day,not bumming around, but working d@mn hard. Then I would work at a part time job from 4-10pm 2 nights a week. The other two nights I woule do homework/ assignments from around 4-10pm. I would have fridays nights 'off',usually having fun with friends, & then saturdays I would do a 10 hour shift again at work. In total, part time work was always over 20 hours a week. Sundays I would have church &then more study/ assignments Sunday afternoons for 5+ hours. So out of school homework was around 15+ hours a week. I don't think I could do it now. Then I was also expected to help out around the house too. School kids don't have it easy, IMO.
28-05-2016 15:30 #66
I'm not disagreeing with any of that.
I just think there needs to be consistency. That's all. Make it 5 or 6 or whatever, but make it consistent. And that goes for consistency between states as well.
I'm not advocating for 4 year olds to all be shoved into school and given hours of homework... Ive clearly stated that I think 4 is generally too young.
Anyway I'll leave it there. I'm hoping some people at least read the article I posted but I won't hold my breath.
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28-05-2016 15:44 #67
harvs said earlier - cost for both parents and government.
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28-05-2016 17:28 #70
Also, every school I have been to in WA has toilets either in or directly adjoining the PP classes so you could supervise toileting while still teaching.
Finally, having 4yo/15hrs Kindy in school prepares the kids so well for full time school. The transition is so smooth.
If I was still in WA, DS would start full time school the year he turned 5 in June, so at 4y 7m and I would have no concerns. I would not feel the same about him starting in that year in vic (he will start a year later due to cutoff here).
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