I think another issue to be addressed is if gender selection became main******, there will be the very real possibility of an unbalanced male-female ratio in society. Nature makes sure we have appx 1/2 males and 1/2 females in our population. Consider 50, 100, 150 years down the track,with a population that is potentially selected to be 70% female and 30% male? Imagine the issues with our great grandchildren finding a partner and having children of their own in such a society.
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24-05-2016 14:28 #261
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24-05-2016 14:35 #262Senior Member
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I really hope I don't offend anyone, but the other issue that concerns me about gender selection is the means necessary to guarantee your chosen gender. I do think it's terrible to 'throw away' embryos that aren't the right gender, but even if you're just separating sperm, unless the sperm of your chosen gender were then injected into the woman and had to make the journey as usual, I would be worried about the long-term impacts on the health of the resulting children.
I have read a few articles about the increased health concerns potentially faced by children conceived via IVF. They don't know exactly why, whether it's the chemicals the embryos are stored in, or that the sperm isn't tested the way it is when it has to make the journey from vagina to fallopian tube etc but whatever the reason, there have been those observations.
Obviously if you have no other way to conceive a child then I can understand circumventing the natural selection processes, but for the sake of gender, would anyone really think it's worth increasing the chances of having a less healthy baby?
It's one thing to hope for a particular gender, but to go through the process as shown on that 60 minutes episode (where the male embryos were discarded and the egg was fertilised in a dish and then implanted), well even if we discovered that in Australia people would choose boys and girls in equal numbers I would still have concerns.
Again I really hope I don't offend anyone. But this is not my opinion, this is just based on the research I've seen regarding IVF.
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This is just my musings, but I think what makes me feel queasy about this is the deliberate nature of it. It's not like you create a bunch of embryos and implant a good one, lucky dip style. When you get into selecting them like this you are essentially choosing which of your embryos will be granted life and which ones won't.
It's feels a little 'Sophie's Choice'. It's hand picking which healthy child should have a life and which one shouldn't. I can't even articulate what's wrong with that, it just doesn't feel right.
24-05-2016 15:10 #266
Mental illness is not a joke. Until GD is in the DSM, people should stop calling it such. It's not a term to be thrown around lightly.
PS - I'm not the only one who found it offensive so get off your high horse
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24-05-2016 15:20 #267
24-05-2016 15:21 #268
Should gender selection for non medical reasons be legal in Australia
Edit I just did a bit more reading and GD can have elements of depression, anxiety and PTSD as well as other problems.
It's a question of extreme. If you would abort a foetus because it's not the right gender then I imagine it's at the extreme end. If you'd do IVF for no other reason than to select the gender of your baby? I don't know. If you'd discard unwanted embryos for not being the right gender? Again, I don't know.
It's a question of degree.
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24-05-2016 15:27 #269
My understanding of what has been said is that depression could well be a consequence or the cause of GD. I think it's awesome that most people have acknowledged that GD may more than just a selfish preference.
As someone else who has suffered depression, ED, anxiety, been a cutter and contemplated suicide, I'm not offended at all that the two are being linked.
24-05-2016 15:33 #270
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