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10-05-2016 07:09 #61
10-05-2016 07:09 #62
good point to whoever pointed out that the LL resist rev rewards but that the other side of the coin is they also bear the risk (which I think many people like to overlook).
poor tenants, rent not paid in time/at all, unforeseen repairs & maintenance, financing costs and costs of acquisition etc. plus the risk that their property may decrease in value rather than go up as everyone assumes.
there needs to be some incentive for investors to take this risk on.
10-05-2016 07:11 #63
Or we could cut NG, bring down house prices and the average joe could actually afford to buy without working themselves to death.
The argument goes both ways here. You are basically saying that others have suck it up so investors can keep getting kick backs and getting wealthy off those that can't afford to buy. It could be said that investors need to suck it up, work a little harder to get a bigger deposit if they want an additional house/s rather than expecting the tax payer to subside them.
Saying rentals are needed is a cyclic argument. The reason demand is so high for rentals is bc housing prices are so high - which has a huge part to do with NG.
10-05-2016 07:15 #64
What I'm trying to say is that negative gearing isn't necessarily this get rich quick scheme which I think many people believe it to be, and mainly it's those who are negative gearing that are a bit naive I think!
In my case I have a rental property (not intentional, former family home which I didn't sell when upgrading) and it has not gone up in value as much as all the money I have poured into it over the years on top of what the tenant pays and what tax breaks I have gotten (a modest $3-4K per year). So yes even though the tenant has paid some of the mortgage I'm still in the red and would have been much better off putting that money into a saving account.
10-05-2016 07:15 #65
So if investors pull out and rents sky rocket what will happen then? How will people be able to afford to rent anything in the city and save for a house deposit?
10-05-2016 07:16 #66
Either they are fats smoking cigars gloating or they are greedy LL who have over extended their loan and won't do repairs.
But most are avg ppl like us. I'm going back to work (not because I want to) but because we need a 10K slush fund to deal with possible problems in our tenanted house.
Believe me I'd much rather live in my own house and live cheaper than rent it out, live elsewhere and pay rent. But I wanted to live with my husband again. So we are stuck in this stupid situation.
10-05-2016 07:22 #67
10-05-2016 07:27 #68
Housing / negative gearing / politicians
I find it hilarious that people are going on about "losing money" when their property is negatively geared. Please. Most investors have interest only loans and if it wasn't benefitting them then they would positively gear their properties. Plus once a property is positively geared, accountants advise to "get rid of it"
There are so many new estates being built in Sydney. Mascot, Botany, Wolli Creek, Hurstville plus many others are going nuts with thousands of new apartments being built and there are thousands of houses being built in the west, north west and south west. My husband is working on the new housing estates out west and he has been working up to 14 hours on some days it is that crazy.
10-05-2016 07:28 #69
Essentially you would rather blame people who are trying to secure their future and their kids future then do something for yourself because God forbid it might hurt a bit.
I'm not going to get the aged pension, I don't get FTBs, I don't get any family payments or CCB or rent assistance. I pay for private dentists and private schools. I Pay my taxes (yes lots of them even with negative gearing) I will also pay for my children's university education and they will not be entitled to Austsudy or youth allowance.
I'm trying to secure my kids futures and my own. And the government helps me a little. They are helping you yes? You get rent assistance yes? I'm not complaining your getting help I'm happy for it why are you so upset with is. I could say it's your choice to be a stay at home mum could I not? I could be angry and demand the government not help you because I have to work and it's not fair. But I don't because your life is yours I was just pointing out that maybe just maybe if you changed up your life a little for a little while you might be able to buy.
10-05-2016 07:31 #70
How do people just magically 'positively gear' their properties? Oh yeah, I'll just grab the spare cash I have sitting in this other account over here that's I'd forgotten about and move it onto my loan.
I think you are so out of touch with reality.
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