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    @MissDa that sucks, up yours DP from me too

    @Caesardust thats a hard one, as Im going to do one more OE cycle Im leaning on saying do it BUT it doesnt cost us nearly that much so its no biggie for us, in fact its way cheaper and easier for me to keep doing OE cycles realistically. Is there a possibility of doing DE through a low cost clinic? Just thinking that if you've got someone whose proven (or just younger) then it *should be more straightforward to possibly go through a low cost clinic. Maybe you need to run through your options of how you can do a DE cycle first and if you can find a cheaper option there then could you do both and not wait for so long? The other issue is will you regret not trying one more time? I think as much as we are all in a bloody rush to have a baby, you have to know in your heart and head that you were satisfied with how much you did before moving on to whatever is next..HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    Ladies I'm in a dilemma. I'm seriously wondering if it is even worth doing this last oe cycle. It will be the first time I've done Pgd but I figure if I'd had any normal embies (7) they'd have worked by now. I will also be having my first laparoscopy. If you were me would you bother throwing 8+k down the drain on a last ditch oe cycle to draw a line in the sand? I won't be able to afford a de cycle until probably next year at least so it's kind of one or the other. I hadn't got to de in my mind or do I think I'm emotionally really ready to give up on my oe but I am figuring it's better to put my money where I'm going to have more of a chance of success. I am in all sorts of anxiety and stress and no one option seems better than the other.

    Hmmmm...a dilemma for sure Luv. In the big scheme of things, 7 embryo's isn't all that many IMO to decide it's not worth pursuing your OE/trying out PGD.

    For me, it took 24 embryos with 12 transferred to get 1 good one. I know you're not as old now as I was when I got my BFFP, but my point is that perhaps your Golden Egg/s might be in this final OE Cycle (if you do it). Combine that with the Lap/PGD this time and it could make all the difference especially as you're not ready to go down the DE path just yet.

    Do you have a counsellor at your Clinic you could speak with to try to figure out where you are emotionally and what might be the best way forward?? If so, I'd be utilising him/her to help get my thoughts/feeling in order before I did anything.

    Yes Luv, unfortunately there is no guarantee with either path but if emotionally you need to do one last OE with the PGD in order to move forward onto DE when you're ready then that's what you have to do. You have to take that risk so you can keep on going on your path to a BFFP however it comes.

    Plus there's every chance one last OE Cycle particularly with a PGD normal embryo will get you over the line!!! Easy for me to say, I know plus it's a lot of money to gamble with but you gotta do what you gotta do so that you can move on with no regrets where your OE's are concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDa View Post
    So it looks like DP has officially stopped taking his supplements, I'm so angry I don't think I can get past this I feel in my heart this relationship is over. Up yours IVF!
    What a little shxt! I mean is it really that hard?? Very angry on your behalf right now 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    @Caesardust. Huge question! How many day 5 blasts do you normally get in a cycle?
    @Tahli I got 2 blasts in cycle 2 and 2 blasts in cycle 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Hmmmm...a dilemma for sure Luv. In the big scheme of things, 7 embryo's isn't all that many IMO to decide it's not worth pursuing your OE/trying out PGD.

    For me, it took 24 embryos with 12 transferred to get 1 good one. I know you're not as old now as I was when I got my BFFP, but my point is that perhaps your Golden Egg/s might be in this final OE Cycle (if you do it). Combine that with the Lap/PGD this time and it could make all the difference especially as you're not ready to go down the DE path just yet.

    Do you have a counsellor at your Clinic you could speak with to try to figure out where you are emotionally and what might be the best way forward?? If so, I'd be utilising him/her to help get my thoughts/feeling in order before I did anything.

    Yes Luv, unfortunately there is no guarantee with either path but if emotionally you need to do one last OE with the PGD in order to move forward onto DE when you're ready then that's what you have to do. You have to take that risk so you can keep on going on your path to a BFFP however it comes.

    Plus there's every chance one last OE Cycle particularly with a PGD normal embryo will get you over the line!!! Easy for me to say, I know plus it's a lot of money to gamble with but you gotta do what you gotta do so that you can move on with no regrets where your OE's are concerned.
    Thanks @BlondeinBrisvegas I think I'm in such a spin with all the what ifs I'm scared of making any decisions. I also haven't been as healthy this cycle as I have been in the past so I feel like that could've ruined my egg quality, but I have been taking all the supplements so maybe that will balance things out??? However I will be with a new clinic and on a new protocol with Pgd so maybe that will be the winning combo as you suggest. I guess I know in my heart of hearts that this is my last go so it would be emotionally devastating to give up this last hoorah. But @Tahli I'll be very interested in the egg sharing stuff if you could pm me more info if be very grateful X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    Ladies I'm in a dilemma. I'm seriously wondering if it is even worth doing this last oe cycle. It will be the first time I've done Pgd but I figure if I'd had any normal embies (7) they'd have worked by now. I will also be having my first laparoscopy. If you were me would you bother throwing 8+k down the drain on a last ditch oe cycle to draw a line in the sand? I won't be able to afford a de cycle until probably next year at least so it's kind of one or the other. I hadn't got to de in my mind or do I think I'm emotionally really ready to give up on my oe but I am figuring it's better to put my money where I'm going to have more of a chance of success. I am in all sorts of anxiety and stress and no one option seems better than the other.
    It took us 9 embryos to get our BFP ( #7 was a normal embryo too but ended in mc anyway ) We didn't do any PGD, basically couldn't afford it. To be honest, if you're only looking at DE next year anyway, I'd be giving it another go. 7 is not that many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie74 View Post
    Thanks for all ur kind words ladies.. I'm hoping a visit to the GP tomoro will make a big difference. @Tahli I'm so sorry about ur mum. I think you did mention before that you'd lost ur mum last year, but God 58 is still very young. That must've been very hard for you. Hugs to you love X

    Wow an 18yr old donor! It kind of amazes me that so many young people in CT donate there eggs. If all they get out of it is 700 odd dollars? I wonder at 18 are u really capable of understanding how big what ur doing really is? I think donors are definitely a special kind of person.. Such an amazing gift to give.

    I occasionally check to see if the girl I liked is still listed. She is. She's not proven, so no idea if she's ever done a cycle and failed etc but I guess if we do get to the point of seriously looking at De then we'd have questions to ask!

    Anyone in hear ever contacted or heard of Dr Braverman in the US? He an RI like DR M. I perhaps made the 'mistake' of getting on his website on Saturday & sent him a question.. and his response has left me with more questions.. I told him my story.. Immune issues, lining, only 1 PGD normal embie.. Etc etc.. And his reply was....
    "There appears to be quite a bit autoimmune going on here with the anti TPO , Reynauds and even with the large number of follilces I still suspect you have some form of PCOS. Read my blog on CRAMS on our website. I think this is your problem, and maybe your lining issues are related. Fill out a consult form on the website and we can schedule a free consult to review your case in detail."

    He does free 10 minute phone consults. Now I'm wondering if I should do it. This CRAMS is something new for me, I've not heard of it before- it stands for Correctable Reoccuring Aneupolid Miscarriage Syndrome. I can't quite get my head around it Bcos I've never been pregnant to have a miscarriage as far as I'm aware.

    So now I'm in a pickle trying to decide do I want to add ANOTHER opinion to the pot!? Decisions decisions!

    Yes, I've heard of Dr Braverman Luv

    I believe Dr M studied under Dr Beers. I reckon @Chiefsgirl would've heard of Dr Braverman too

    I think if the consult is free you've got nothing to lose by seeing what he has to say. Doesn't mean he'd be right or wrong as it's just an opinion but you could at least see if his opinion/recommendation concurs with the other Specialists/FS's you've consulted.

    Whatever matches up is what I'd take on board. Anything else I'd be researching first to see what the go is.

    I'm also sorry about your Dad Luv

    As you know I lost my Mum 2 yrs ago this July to lung cancer from bloody smoking!!! She was 62 I'm an ex-smoker myself that started at 15 and stopped only 6 years ago so every chance I could've frucked myself over too from all the years I did smoke with something sinister popping up in years to come!!!

    Yes, it's definitely something I wish I'd never started and had stopped long before I did. Anyhoo...hoping the GP can do something to help your Dad to become more comfortable. Don't suppose he could be persuaded to go to the Palliative Care dept at the hospital so they could reassess him and prescribe some other meds etc to help him???

    Does he have Blue Care Nurses etc coming out to check on him at home???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    Thanks @BlondeinBrisvegas I think I'm in such a spin with all the what ifs I'm scared of making any decisions. I also haven't been as healthy this cycle as I have been in the past so I feel like that could've ruined my egg quality, but I have been taking all the supplements so maybe that will balance things out??? However I will be with a new clinic and on a new protocol with Pgd so maybe that will be the winning combo as you suggest. I guess I know in my heart of hearts that this is my last go so it would be emotionally devastating to give up this last hoorah. But @Tahli I'll be very interested in the egg sharing stuff if you could pm me more info if be very grateful X
    The main thing is you've been taking all the supplements IMO Luv.

    On my BFFP Cycle I drank as many cups of tea as I wanted, ate chocolate when I wanted etc, etc. I was 75-85% eating well and 20-25% eating sh!t!!! If you decide to do another OE then just up the protein etc and get into whatever "IVF Food Mode" you follow

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    @Caesardust I have sent you a PM.
    That's a really tricky one when you're still producing blasts. I think it's a little bit tricky for the reason you mentioned. I'm going to play devil's advocate. I don't think PGD really makes too much a difference if it's your final OE cycle. You could have transferred them and POAS before you actually get the PGD results. And you could have saved your $1,500....or you can spend the $1,500 and try and get some answers.
    If you're not doing another OE cycle after this one then PGD doesn't change too much. Other than possibly getting an answer as to why it's not working with your OEs. If you don't get PGD normals then it may let you off the hook emotionally with your OEs and allow you to move forward with DEs knowing you've done all you can. But how would you feel if they came back normal and they still don't stick? (not that I'm wishing that on you in a million years) Tempted to do another OE cycle?
    It's the lap that could change things, esp if NL (if it's him doing it) finds something that can be 'fixed'. A lap would be handy even if you were going to do DE as it may pick up on something that effects implantation and maintaining a pregnancy.
    Do you have a gut instinct? I know how difficult the decision is when finances have to start coming into play.

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    @Caesardust im similar we are doing final oe cycle shortly i dont get many eggs last cycle we had 6 eggs 3 fertilised and fortunate to have 2 grow to blast but both fets failed 2 x mc. Previous cycles have been day 3 transfers. I wonder if i paid the 1500 to get them tested they would have come back abnormal.

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