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20-03-2016 08:22 #41
20-03-2016 08:22 #42
Naplan is best looked at in terms of student gain, it gives a world more information about the quality of the school than the red/green/white.
Our school has a large population of international students and is all red on naplan- but student gain is more than a band. Of course the numerous enrichment programs, extra-curriculars and other opportunities speak louder than naplan anyway.
20-03-2016 08:23 #43
There are far broader and richer considerations than NAPLAN.
20-03-2016 08:23 #44
Poor NAPLAN results for local school...
I'll probably be flamed but I think in the right school naplan can be great. When DD1 did it 2 years ago a lot of parents found it very helpful to identify areas where their kids needed support. 2 kids had undiagnosed dyslexia picked up.
So I'm not anti Naplan necessarily. At the school my kids are currently at (my girls) you wouldn't even know it was happening.
But yeah I wouldn't even read the myschool website.
Last edited by Sonja; 20-03-2016 at 08:26.
20-03-2016 08:29 #45
20-03-2016 08:42 #46
I wouldn't rely on NAPLAN and I actually don't even care if my son did it or not. In fact, if I could get him out of doing it, I would. I remember hating standardised testing in primary school because it just put so much pressure on me! and I was one of the students that did really well. I remember being one of the top achievers in the State in science in year 7, and then feeling overwhelming pressure to be really good at science after that. But the following year I absolutely hated it and then felt like a failure because I should have been good at it. I also remember feeling bitterly disappointed and depressed that I didn't get into a selective high school. 12 year olds shouldn't be made to feel like that. I think there are more important things in life than doing well on tests. And a school that only focuses on that isn't a school I would send my kids to.
As an example, my half brother goes to a very prestigious private school and was the highest achiever in naplan in year 3 in his school, and one of the highest in the state. But in the years leading up to year 3 (he started the school in preschool), he was horribly bullied by some other boys and the school handled it terribly. They completely ignored it and were forcing him to socialise with the bullies out of school (they had a policy that all children had to be invited to each other's birthday parties - I've never heard anything so ridiculous). Anyway, he was basically in a living hell socially for about a year and came close to changing schools numerous times.
The way the handled it at the school was disgusting. But he had amazing NAPLAN results and the school is one of the top in the state when it comes to naplan. I wouldn't send my kids there even if it was free!
20-03-2016 08:43 #47
These are the sorts of things that would be a flag for me. I have a love hate relationship with naplan as I think it's misused.
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20-03-2016 08:50 #48
Poor NAPLAN results for local school...
I agree it's entirely misused, it should definitely not be data for developing teaching and learning or setting student goals but unfortunately it's being used that way. It really dumbs teaching down.
20-03-2016 11:09 #49
We have behaviour issues because we have a special education unit of 3 classes. One of those classes is an emotional disturbance/behaviour disorder class. The problems in our school come from these kids 99% of the time and 99% of our behaviour issues start in the playground, not in class.
Also, if you actually look at the NAPLAN results I posted, we actually achieve the same or better as like schools in 2015, so our results are going up, but when you compare a school with 75% of students in the bottom quarter of social advantage, then of course when compared with ALL schools it will be majority in the red.
I will bet my bottom dollar that our students achieve much bigger growth than a school in Pymble.
20-03-2016 11:16 #50
I haven't read all of the responses but thought I'd add that I have a student in my class who aced the NAPLAN tests that were based on multiple choice... He's the lowest achiever in my class... The naplan results are often mismatched to their performance in class and on curriculum based assessment. I've also had straight A students flunk NAPLAN. My son is doing NAPLAN for the first time this year... He's a very high achiever... The last thing I want is for him to put pressure on himself for a test that has no bearing on his overall report card marks.
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