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12-03-2016 21:50 #11
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12-03-2016 23:09 #13Senior Member
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I would do like the others have suggested, cut out story time. And keep patting him to sleep if he needs it.
Also try not to stress about it. You're doing a great job and the fact that he's putting himself back to sleep during the night is fab!
13-03-2016 06:34 #14-
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Self-setting at bedtime
Cut the third nap. Look at the timing of day naps and bring forward bed time so bub isn't so tired at bedtime. That's the underlying issue at play.
13-03-2016 10:21 #15
@Mona424 thank you, yep I know the difference between whingeing and crying now (I have finally learnt haha) and am okay with the grizzles. Only when he's really upset do I go in. @babyla and @MyLittleStar thank you so much for the support. I know we have had a lot of progress as he is now sleeping 8-9 hour stretches at night which is truly amazing. Even after a rough start last night he ended up sleeping til 4.30am (woke a few times but resettled himself). @VicPark thanks for your advice. I think I will have to stretch out his awake time slightly more to make sure his second nap is a little later and lasts a little longer to make sure he isn't getting so tired. Bedtime is already 6.30-7ish so I could probably only bring it forward slightly!
Thanks ladies for respecting eachother's different POVs and not turning my thread into a war haha
13-03-2016 11:42 #16Senior Member
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@Fi Poledancer what does your day routine look like? My DD is 8.5 months (7.5 corrected) and we've had a lot of sleep issues culminating in sleep school about 6 weeks ago. We've now got a routine that works for us and DD hasn't fought nap or bedtimes since we've got this in place. We are on 2 naps a day I think when she had 3 it was because her naps weren't long enough and we weren't giving her enough awake time to be tired enough for a decent nap then that was flowing into bedtime not being tired enough and fighting it.
So our day now looks like this and our awake times go 2.5hrs, 3hrs, 3.5hrs with 15-30 minute leeway either side depending how she is on the day:
7:30am wake up, breastfeed
10am nap 1.5hrs
11:30 wake up, breastfeed
2:30 nap 1.5hrs (sometimes 2)
4pm wake up, breastfeed
6:30pm breastfeed, book/quiet play
She goes straight down without a peep for all her naps and bedtime. At night she's now sleeping til 3-5am (and the other night right through til 7:30!) when I give her a quick feed and she goes back to sleep til about 7:30.
If I tried to get her to bed at night with less than 3-3.5hrs awake time she would just get agitated and fight it and cry as she's not ready (which looks rather the same as being overtired but for her it wasn't being tired enough) so it's much easier now with the 2 naps and longer awake times. Sometimes her feed times may be off depending on the day, sometimes she falls asleep feeding or in the car but I just let that happen and it all slots into place somehow.
Hopefully you can work things out so bub isn't fighting so much xx
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13-03-2016 12:45 #17
13-03-2016 15:00 #18
@babyla I was so happy. He does cry out occasionally in the night but we give him a minute and he resettles himself. Sometimes he chats and then nods back off to sleep. I would love it if he slept those 8-9 hr stretches without a peep but I also know that it's okay for them to complain a little in their sleep, and I don't need to feel guilty for waiting a minute or two before I go in (you can tell I still struggle with not responding instantly to his cries).
@gingermillie that is what I was thinking!! His naps are pretty good and he self settles quickly for them, but I will work on improving that afternoon one so he's the right kind of tiredness come bedtime. Sounds like sleep school worked wonders for you!!!
14-03-2016 06:56 #19
What are you doing different at night in comparison to to the day time nap? Try setting it up the same.
Also both of mine when they were that little if they were overly tired, it would be more difficult to put them to bed, just a thought may not be it, but perhaps try getting him to bed a little earlier. With little ones sleep promotes sleep.
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15-03-2016 11:11 #20
We have discovered that giving him a bottle before bed rather than a breastfeed makes him less sleepy, which works better because he's not falling asleep and being woken up again (which makes anyone grumpy!). Also he is soo big that it is hard to get him into a comfy position to read the story haha but DH has managed to do it. Looks like DH is on bedtime duty for awhile
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