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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    I just did a quick google-
    a teachers average wage in Aus is about $64k
    A civil engineer $71k

    We pay the public servants who make our roundabouts more than those who are teaching the next generation. I wonder why on earth that would be?
    As a female engineer (and a feminist), I'm going to dispute this one as a bad example. I get paid more than a teacher because I did more study (longer degree) and because there are fewer people with the skills required to be a certified engineer than people with the skills required for being a teacher. It's supply and demand.

    That is not to say that, as a female engineer, I haven't experienced situations where my gender resulted in fewer opportunities or less money or just being plain overlooked, compared to my male counterparts. Direct and indirect discrimination within the engineering profession is alive and well.

    I also acknowledge that women who would otherwise make fine engineers may never enter the profession, because social norms tend to encourage women into so-called "softer" careers and away from the physical sciences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    Can you see that often a woman will make those choices based on spending her whole life being socially conditioned to believe that it is a forgone conclusion that she will make those certain choices?
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    Yes I can see that. I also think that women make those choices because they just want to. Or don't plan in advance. Or don't want to chase he money. Or just want to be with their young kids at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentoo View Post
    As a female engineer (and a feminist), I'm going to dispute this one as a bad example. I get paid more than a teacher because I did more study (longer degree)
    Primary, secondary and early childhood are 4 year degrees now and honestly, they are really demanding. They also include months of unpaid blocks of prac.

    How long is engineering?

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    I am and always have been a feminist, I really don't understand when a woman says she isn't.

    I disagree with some of the pp's who say staying home is the woman's choice after children, no often it just financially easier. Or it's expected or she doesn't have other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Yes I can see that. I also think that women make those choices because they just want to. Or don't plan in advance. Or don't want to chase he money. Or just want to be with their young kids at home.
    I actually agree with this. I'm one of these women. I'm not interested in money, I love being home with my kids and I don't regret it even a tiny bit. But we aren't the ones missing out bc we *do* choose. Many women for a million reasons don't get to.

    Just bc there are women like me that do choose doesn't mean that inequality doesn't exist or that there isn't a glass ceiling for working women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Yes I can see that. I also think that women make those choices because they just want to. Or don't plan in advance. Or don't want to chase he money. Or just want to be with their young kids at home.
    I get so frustrated arguing with you. I've covered these points off already. You are selectively quoting me and ignoring the parts where I address this directly. You're going around in circles so I'll step away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Primary, secondary and early childhood are 4 year degrees now and honestly, they are really demanding. They also include months of unpaid blocks of prac.

    How long is engineering?
    And there is a massive teacher shortage looming, so it's not an issue of supply and demand either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    I get so frustrated arguing with you. I've covered these points off already. You are selectively quoting me and ignoring the parts where I address this directly. You're going around in circles so I'll step away.
    Look don't be offended please. If anything it has more to do with me trying to rush responses in between wrangling kids. Not intentionally selectively quoting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Look don't be offended please. If anything it has more to do with me trying to rush responses in between wrangling kids. Not intentionally selectively quoting.
    Ok fair play I'll let you get the kids down and we can get back to fisticuffs 👊
    I just don't want to be going round in circles repeating myself because I'm writing a damn lot today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Primary, secondary and early childhood are 4 year degrees now and honestly, they are really demanding. They also include months of unpaid blocks of prac.

    How long is engineering?
    I'd like to chime in here as someone who's worked beside engineers for most of my life. It's one of the hardest uni courses you can do. Next to architecture I have the utmost respect for people who get through it. It's extraordinarily difficult.

    I would have loved to have been an engineer but just wasn't smart enough.

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