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    Default 0 morphology - any success with ivf / icsi???

    hi everyone!so long story short my partner and i have been off contraception for the past 4 years. we saw a fertility specialist a week ago and had my AMH done and my partners sperm analysed. results have come back with my AMH at 9.8 (I am 27 years old so i have been told that is on the low side). my partners SA results were - progressive mortility 24% morphology 0%so basically the FS said we need IVF ICSI. i have done as much research and reading as i can handle and i am just feeling a little lost. is there any success stories out there with these kind of results? thanks for taking the time to read this. any advice would be much appreciated!
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    i feel like a dummy but what is TESA?

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    My husband only has 1% clinical usable sperm and high DNA damage and antibodies. We tried PICSI and ICSi and TESA sperm. All embryos were not that good after 3 days. Then we tried IMSI (last shot before going donor) and immediately had A grade embryos that were amazing. I am now pregnant as a result of IMSI.
    Best of luck

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    @Lea7 what clinic did you use for IMSI?

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    @Lea7 what clinic did you use for IMSI?

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    @Lea7 what clinic did you use for IMSI?

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    @Lea7 what clinic did you use for IMSI?

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    Genea in sydney. In sydney I believe there are only two clinics that do it ( Genea and IVF australia) - but in my honest opinion I think Genea seem to be at the forefront in the lab.

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    Because Genea is expensive for a cycle. We got the doctor to get the Genea lab to do a "trial IMSI analysis" ie. Analyse the sperm under IMSI to see if it was worthwhile or not. That's when we heard back we had 1% clinical usable. So that is why we dropped the donor avenue and pursued with my husband at Genea. I am so glad we did that now.

    while we were there the embryos were developing well enough that we got them to do PGD testing (cost a little more) but enabled them to identify the embryos that were 100% normal for chromosomes. And that has been so reassuring whilst being pregnant to know that. It also eliminates the pain, agony and time of the main cause of miscarriage.

    Using frozen embryos rather than fresh is a better thing where possible as the female body is not pumped up on ridiculous amounts of hormones and recovering from egg collections etc. this helps considerably for implantation.

    I also recommend that all females get tested for immunology issues prior to having an embryo transferred. It's a few blood tests. But. Honestly if you have issues in this area, then it wouldn't matter if you put the best embryo in the world in, your body will ruin it for you. And there are simple medications that can pretty much eliminate immunology issues. (Dr Matthias reproductive immunology - sydney) you could do a phone appt, get bloods sent etc if you live in QLD.

    I also recommend doing what ever you can to help implantation. And some things we did were, Accupincture and endometrial scratching.

    Sorry to bombard with info, but after 14 cycles I feel like I want to save as many people as possible from the crap we went through and the time wasted for us in figuring these very useful measures out, which have now resulted in pregnancy.

    And lastly, (this should of been first) giving yourself the best shot at getting good eggs and as any as possible, as it is a numbers game especially with male infertility issues. You need lots of eggs to be there in hope that the one good sperm that may exist being used.

    helping male sperm as bad as it may be be better, can be achieved with vitamin regimes and lifestyle choices.. Especially No alcohol for men with infertility issues if can take away what little possibility there may be.

    For females vitamins were crucial also and We also found that Accupuncture assisted blood flow to uterus which helped with eggs.

    The drugs that the fertility doctors prescribe can also make a huuuuuuge difference. Be strong don't let them give you low amounts and play it safe bull****.. I honestly feel that is the way of ensuring they get another round of IVF $$$$ from you. The worst thing that can happen is you will over stimulate. Yes that is bad, not the end of the world. And most IVF clinics don't charge you if the cycle is cancelled for medical reasons. And over stimulation is a medical reason. But if you do ivf and only get a few eggs more miracles are required than if have several eggs when dealing with male infertility. (Numbers game!!)

    Proganova prior to cycle helped enable even growth on the eggs so that we could yield maximum eggs in the catchment range. (Eg. No Proganova = 3 eggs but when we used Proganova we ended up with 12)

    In addition to the standard drugs they administer , we insisted for growth hormones and Luveris. This cocktail led to pregnancy for us. If you are a younger woman probably not needed as much. But if your mid 30plus, it can not hurt.

    All the best

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    Thanks so much for all the info! Definitely not an overload, I can't read enough on it all!!

    I don't know of anywhere that offers IMSI up here in Qld which is a shame.

    We've decided to try a bulk bill clinic bbivf first just to test the waters I guess. The FS there made it clear that they don't offer low dose hormones like some other low cost clinics. They also only do FET. So a couple of positives based on your advice. Their support is very minimal and a lot of process is done of site. We will lodge our paperwork next week and I believe it will take 6-8 weeks from there to start hormone treatment.

    I'm 27 and DH is 41. He has had a failed vasectomy reversal so in theory in think our case is straight forward enough.

    We were originally booked with Wazza up here so we are both taking his recommended supplements.


 

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