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    Lol. Both terrify me. And I didn't tear. Even with my 4.5kg 38cm HC posterior baby

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    I've had 2 water births with no perineal support and no tears despite both babies being over 4kg and 36cm heads.

    Didn't have any perineal support for my land birth either and had a graze but no tearing and he was only 3.6kg

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    The water itself should provide some support. Two water births here no tears or grazes.

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    Default Can you have a water birth at the Wesley!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mamasupial View Post
    What was "odd" about your experience?
    'Odd' probably isn't the right word...I was a bit annoyed more than anything that my midwife didn't explain until I was well and truly labouring intensely, that she would not be able to assist in a hands-on fashion in any way. I did ask for perineal support to assist in avoiding a tear, but she told me that she wasn't able to help in that regard, as it was completely 'hands off'. She also let me know i would have to grab the baby when it was born.... That didn't happen though as there was meconium in the waters and DD was difficult to grab! It was a super fast birth and I did have a third degree tear.... All healed fine though. I was just a bit annoyed I wasn't told about the hands off issue before I got in the pool. By the time she mentioned it it was too late... I was already in the zone and I wasn't hopping out of the pool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGirl View Post
    'Odd' probably isn't the right word...I was a bit annoyed more than anything that my midwife didn't explain until I was well and truly labouring intensely, that she would not be able to assist in a hands-on fashion in any way. I did ask for perineal support to assist in avoiding a tear, but she told me that she wasn't able to help in that regard, as it was completely 'hands off'. She also let me know i would have to grab the baby when it was born.... That didn't happen though as there was meconium in the waters and DD was difficult to grab! It was a super fast birth and I did have a third degree tear.... All healed fine though. I was just a bit annoyed I wasn't told about the hands off issue before I got in the pool. By the time she mentioned it it was too late... I was already in the zone and I wasn't hopping out of the pool!
    I had similar with my water birth - the midwife ended up catching him lol

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    Thanks for the replies everyone! Can you at least labour in water at the Wesley?! Thanks xx

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    Wonder why they are hands off..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamasupial View Post
    Wonder why they are hands off..
    I'm not trained in water birth so may way off the mark but a) the warm water is supposed to help 'soften' the perineum allowing it to stretch up during crowning and b) have you seen a birth pool/bath before? They're pretty deep and for a MW to give support to the perineum they would almost have to be in the bath with the woman as its so deep. You just can't physically reach. You don't want the woman floating near the surface as its dangerous to baby. You need mum submerged into the water to a certain point so baby is totally submerged at birth. You also don't want to be doing anything to stimulate baby while its underwater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamasupial View Post
    Wonder why they are hands off..
    Sorry, meant to quote not thank...I had a water both with dd (in wa though) and was told when signing consent forms that the mw would play no part in helping me or baby out. I remember them making mention of not touching bub at all as they don't want any stimulation for them (along those lines, dd is nearly 4 so it was a while ago)

    As m'lady em said as well, those baths are deep ! It was enough of a struggle for the mw to get the Doppler on, I don't know how convenient providing extra support would be for either party.

    Having perineal support honestly never crossed my mind though so that was a non issue and I chose the birth centre as it was the closest compromise with dh for a home birth so bringing dd up after she was born was what I wanted. I was more than happy for them to be hands off


 

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