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    yes Mum, er @Bongley. the problem is I don't see the colour until afterwards (it was clear). tmi
    but I should have known. I was just thinking earlier it's prob a good idea to keep up my fluids then forgot until I saw the result

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    I don't think you're a true Stick Wh~re until you're going through 1 box of FRERs a day...and yes, it must be a 7 pack!!

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    haha @Tahli! I haven't reached that level yet. 1-2 is my limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precious40 View Post
    Thanks ladies. You are truly awesome.

    I did see this black mass in my left tube on the ultrasound. He even took a photo of it. And did say if they don't see it, tell them it's there and look again. Lol

    I just need to work out by tomorrow who I want to do the laparoscopic surgery. My clink or the new FS I've found

    He seemed very interned in NK testing and my MTHFR gene. Which is what I've been looking for. Finally

    For those ladies that have two FS. Is it hard to keep all the info in. One FS says this while the other says this. Do you tell them your seeing someone else? I feel like I'm cheating some how. Will one contradict the other?
    @Precious40, at one point I considered changing specialists. My 'old' specialist was very good with the 'getting me pregnant' part, but I felt the clinic overall was lacking in emotional support, especially once I lost my baby. I basically had to deal with that all by myself (and with the lovely ladies here) as the clinic only offered counselling 1 afternoon a week. Convenient, not.

    I met with another well respected specialist to sound him out. I told him what I'd been doing and asked if (A) He felt my current course of treatment was appropriate, and (B) What, if anything, he would do differently. He had some suggestions which I took on board and implemented myself, but in the end he suggested that if I was his wife/sister/friend he would recommend that I stay where I was because of X,Y,Z.

    I found the whole experience very beneficial. It opened my mind to a few new ideas and also gave me some options to consider going forward. In the end I stayed where I was (purely because at the end of the day my main focus was to get pregnant, and I knew my present Doctor had pretty good success rates.) At the end of the day skill trumped support for me, lol.

    I think exploring your concerns with another specialist is beneficial even if you don't intend to change providers. I was upfront with both specialists - I told the new guy who I'd been seeing and what we had done, and I told my old FS that I was meeting with other specialists as well. I'm a pretty confident woman and I was happy to take my health into my own hands. At the end of the day IVF should not be about being told what to do all the time. We don't work for these people, we pay THEM! Your IVF journey should be something both you and your chosen specialist work on together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    @Summer that cow!!! I was so livid reading your post I nearly threw my phone across the room. I hate that she did that. It's so low!!! Grrr. I hope you can sort that out pronto. Still fuming. You are so amazing.
    Thanks @Caesardust for your fury on my behalf - awesome!

    It has to be the lowest of the low, honestly who would stoop to that to try and prevent their ex from having fair amounts of time with his son? We're due in to do interviews for a family report tomorrow, so I've got to keep my head screwed on because DH is losing his at the moment, he's so upset about it all - she said some pretty nasty stuff in her affidavit that isn't true, so my part is the least of the worries I think. I know she's just desperately trying to hang onto her son and trying to find any little thing to use against us, so I'm not going to take the bit about our "emotional household" personally - it's all in the past anyway - and I'll just be there for DH because he's a mess. And they say women are the emotional ones. Pfft!
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    @Precious40 Talk about extreme opposites in FS's approaches. I'm a fan of the later FS. I'm glad that after your traumatic experience you're starting to get some-where.
    I have 3 FS's, as do most of the O/S DE girls. I have my CFC FS, LB and Dr M. It can be really tricky to juggle, esp when being given protocols but I guess you can choose what to follow. A little example is Clexane, 1 has told me to start before boarding my CT flight, another told me to start 1 week prior transfer and 1 told me to start on CD1. I'll start on CD1...it covers all bases!
    Good luck with your decision!

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    @Precious40 what a horrible time you're having with this

    I have had an embryo "disappear", so it's not unheard of. It was there on the scan measuring 5w4d, then at my next scan two weeks later it was gone and my uterus looked normal. I didn't bleed out but my hcg wasn't rising as expected so I knew something was wrong.

    Definitely get it checked out for ectopic if they think something is in your tube, but wouldn't you be getting a lot of pain by now? Are they still checking your hcg to make sure it's going down? A lap sounds like a fairly extreme thing to do if they aren't sure. Get a second opinion hon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winsor View Post
    haha @Tahli! I haven't reached that level yet. 1-2 is my limit.
    @winsor You must be prepared to give up your weeks grocery money in order to fund boxes of FRERs. Commit to the cause!!

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    @Precious40 yeah, I was open about getting second opinions but it must be a bit tricky getting different advice from two at once!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precious40 View Post
    Thanks ladies. You are truly awesome.

    I did see this black mass in my left tube on the ultrasound. He even took a photo of it. And did say if they don't see it, tell them it's there and look again. Lol

    I just need to work out by tomorrow who I want to do the laparoscopic surgery. My clink or the new FS I've found

    He seemed very interned in NK testing and my MTHFR gene. Which is what I've been looking for. Finally

    For those ladies that have two FS. Is it hard to keep all the info in. One FS says this while the other says this. Do you tell them your seeing someone else? I feel like I'm cheating some how. Will one contradict the other?
    The day I went in and signed the release forms to have my info sent over to Wazza's rooms, I felt bad Luv like I was somehow "betraying" my original FS by leaving. The lovely Admin lady who worked there assured me that just as many patients came to my original FS for a second opinion as left to go to other FS's for 2nd or even 3rd opinions and they were all used to it and weren't offended by it as that's the nature of the beast in medicine regardless of your speciality.

    Which is completely true. Most of us are encouraged to get second opinions when given diagnosis's etc in the normal course of events regarding our health etc, it's the same for IVF. After I'd met Wazza when our appointment was over, I didn't feel bad anymore.

    I knew immediately I'd done the right thing by transferring over to him. I needed a FS who would leave no stone unturned in our quest for a BFFP and Wazza was the one. It wasn't just about the possibility of immune issues (though if I'd had any, at least I knew they'd be treated), it was also the different protocols, drugs, dosages and methods of delivery not to mention the Endo scratches/Lipoidal Flush, all the supplements including DHEA/Melatonin/HGH etc.

    I had no hope of having any of that done or trying any of it with my original FS as he didn't believe in immune issues. He point blank refused the supplements, different FSH like Menopur etc. He was very conservative... which is his right as it is anyone's to believe/not believe in whatever treatment options/protocols/supplements etc. A lovely, lovely man, but very conservative.

    No further stones would've been turned if we'd stuck with him and I needed to know for my own peace of mind that had we walked away empty handed, absolutely everything would've been done, tested and tried in the process. The only way to make that happen was to go to someone who would do that. Plus, in my case, Wazza was more than happy to allow me to be an active participant in my own treatment plan which meant a lot to me as I knew I was being listened to, understood and my opinions on my own body valued.

    I say if this second FS is the one who has resonated with you and who feels "right" and who you believe you will have your best chance with, then go with him for the Lap surgery Luv. Start off as you mean to go on.

    Finally, yes, different FS often do have contradicting advice about all sorts of things like immune issues (if one believes in them and the other doesn't), protocols, dosages, actual drugs used and the list goes on!!

    Again, it's about going with who feels right and resonates with you and who you believe...for whatever reason...is going to get you over the line Luv IMOxo
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