They posed a question on the today show this morning - should Australia help Assange?
I can't believe this is even a question, he's an Australian citizen, he's entitled to consular assistance, hell they give it to known rapists, murderers etc....
This just makes me so mad!
Any thoughts anyone? Does anyone agree we shouldn't help him?
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06-02-2016 06:13 #1
Julian Assange.... Why is he treated differently?
06-02-2016 06:45 #2
06-02-2016 07:07 #3
Because he is the governments worst nightmare. Why would they want to help him in any way. Their goal is to have him handed over to the U.S. and clean their hands of him. And the Australian government likes nothing more bending over for the US.
He didn't rape anyone and they know it but they need to get him to a place where the US can legally take him into custody.
06-02-2016 07:38 #4
If he asks for help he should get it. However he is in the Ecuadorian embassy of his own free will and can leave at any time.
If the USA really want him they are many ways to do it. They don't need some rape case in Sweden to make it happen. Sweden is no friend of the US.
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06-02-2016 07:45 #5
06-02-2016 08:49 #6
I'm no expert but apparently the laws changed so that the British police could not arrest him if he left the embassy because he had not officially been charged with a crime - however they chose not to apply that change in law to Assange. So therefore he is detained illegally because if he left the embassy he would be arrested & that is not actually within the law at this time.
06-02-2016 11:24 #7
I do think the charges against him are trumped up charges in order to get him to the US ....
to answer for crimes he DID commit there.
BUT I dont see how they can say he is being illegally detained.
He isnt being detained at all. He is in the Equadorial embassy of his own volition. He is free to walk out any time.
The fact that he will be arrested to answer to charges the minute he walks out does not mean that he is being detained. It means that he will be facing charges at some point.
06-02-2016 11:31 #8Senior Member
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He exposed the U.S. for who they are. He leaked a lot of secret documents which the U.S. are very angry about. He knows that bad things will probably happen to him should he leave the embassy. Morally and ethically we should help but we won't because that would strain relations with the U.S and essentially we are allies.
He has paid a very high price for exposing them unfortunately .
06-02-2016 11:59 #9
Julian Assange.... Why is he treated differently?
Quite simply because he p!ssed off the USA and now trumped up charges are trying to be laid to so the USA can get their hands on him.
I sit on the fence with this one, I don't believe he raped anyone but I'm not sure you can leak those documents and not expect to then face the penalties. I dunno you want to take on the big boys you have to know it's not going to end well.
06-02-2016 12:23 #10
I'll start by saying I don't like him, so that colours my view. I think he's weak personally. He was prepared to post the papers/leaks, but isn't prepared to face the consequences. I don't think he should have done it. Some of the things he put out there put people doing their jobs in danger and that's not cool in my book. Plus, the military guy who gave him the papers is in jail. So why should Assange get to shirk his role in all this by staying in the Embassy? Everyone goes on about how awful it is he's trapped there etc, but that was his choice. And his choice to remain there. There's enough press interest in this that the US can't just make him disappear. They would have to give him a fair trial.
I don't know how I feel about the rape case. If what I read ages ago is true, he had sex with her, without a condom while she was passed out. So she didn't give consent. Even if they had sex before they went to sleep, that doesn't give him implied consent to have sex with her again while she is passed out, which means he did in fact rape her. If that is true, it reinforces my opinion of his character. That his morals aren't as high and mighty as he makes out.
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