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06-02-2016 13:02 #141
06-02-2016 13:09 #142
I think the issue with chaplains is there were a few examples in some Victorian schools where they went too far. So a few bad apples etc.
06-02-2016 13:18 #143Senior Member
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06-02-2016 13:24 #145
For anyone who is interested, SA is the only state to not have scripture classes in their public schools, plus this is an interesting article.
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06-02-2016 13:27 #146
06-02-2016 13:36 #147
Why chaplains though? Why not a youth worker or social worker or psychologist? I'm pretty firm in my view that religion, aside from being taught holistically, should be kept out of public schools. Chaplains represent Christianity, I'm not aware of any public schools who employ a Rabbi to act as counsel to students who need support. I'm not suggesting chaplains necessarily discuss god or bring up religion, but at the end of the day, they are representatives of Christianity.
06-02-2016 13:50 #148
I don't believe chaplains have a place in public schools. I don't believe they're a valuable resource and I would prefer to send DS to a school without a chaplain but with welfare staff, psychologists or social workers.
If they're not there to provide spiritual guidance, why do they have to be chaplains? But if they are there to provide spiritual guidance, I don't believe They belong in public schools.
My experience with school chaplains in public schools was horrific and I wouldn't want any vulnerable young person exposed to that, especially when chaplains seemed interchangeable with school welfare staff.
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06-02-2016 13:52 #149
I know again, I'll be seen as anti religious, but really it's more pro-professional. The chaplains we have had, had a cert 3 in counselling. Sw's and psych's have 4+years. And being privy to a lot of behind the scenes Chaplaincy stuff, you would be shocked how much money is being put into it.
Have a chaplain for religious schools, have social workers for public.
06-02-2016 13:54 #150
@Moxy I've been thinking about that too. In general I agree with your points. But to use my school as an example, we don't have enough students to qualify for a state-funded school counsellor. But we can access a CPSW (Christian Pastoral Support Worker) funded by the Uniting Church for two days a week.
I agree re being pro-professional. It's not the same thing at all, but in our case it's definitely better than nothing at all.
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