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    In that case @Caesardust I hope you stay feral for as long as possible!!
    PS: My grovelling apology unfortunately doesn't extend as far as helping you out with your very patient and understanding dp.

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    Thanks @midnite01 and @Precious40 - hopefully I'll be doing a FET in the next few months and I'll have no idea. So I'll probably be asking lots of questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    You put Crinone up there!?! Really!?! Does it get absorbed effectively and stay put? Wazza is always on about our having rooties, but with Crinone it ain't happening - that is what turkey basters are for. IVF definitely destroys intimacy in relationships, so I'm on the fence, but might need to reconsider.

    Gosh you learn a lot on here!
    Yes it stays there. No different than diahorrea really, you can keep that in, but be careful if you have wind - sorry tmi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    @Gagingi I reckon you should save that one for @Blossom74's visual aid, esp if she does a day 3 DET. I have feeling she knows what to do with a rolling pin. I just enjoy the aesthetics of it!!
    That's very sweet of your to ask about my furry boy. He has IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease) so is on fish and 5mg of Pred for another week, then off for another ultrasound. More worrying it's looking like he has early Small Cell Lymphoma which if caught early can be treated with meds for a long time I think. To absolutely confirm the diagnosis would involve an operation costing $2.2k. I'll get more info next week. I'm hoping for the best and the specialist vet is trying to avoid the costly op for me, bless him. And obviously this all comes into play with what I can afford to do IVF wise.
    @Tahli that makes life tough. Right at the very start of my IVF journey my boxer injured her back and had been unable to lie down for days before I realised how bad it was. She'd worn the pads off her feet pacing up and down the driveway all night long. We ended up at the specialist and it was several thousand just to get the X-ray/mri/whatever it was then followed by thousands for a back operation maybe, which was no guaranteed cure. It cut me up but I had to make the decision between IVF or her at the time and no prizes for guessing which way I went . I hope you don't even come close to having to decide on your pets health or life. It sh1ts me how expensive vets are.
    Yes I would pull up stumps on one remaining embryo too, so in that case you may as well defrost all 3 straight up and choose the best ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    I've never done a FET, but I thought you didn't need progesterone (unless you have lining issues?). You only need it with fresh because all the stim drugs bugger up your body's natural responses - e.g. to produce progesterone? I thought that is why PBS doesn't cover Crinone etc for FETs... So much uncertainty.
    If you do an epu or ovulate your body produces progesterone naturally. The rupturing follicle triggers your body to start creating it. If you do a FET your body doesn't produce progesterone was my understanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie74 View Post
    I know nothing really in comparison to most in here.. But I thought they give you progesterone when doing an IVF cycle Bcos you don't produce a corpus luteum?? Whether it's fresh OR frozen??? And it's the corpus luteum that provides the progesterone in a normal (non IVF) pregnancy?

    Or is that wrong? Do u have a corpus luteum in an IVF full cycle but not during a medicated FET?

    God.. This stuff if a real head fruck some days..

    BIB I'm guessing you'll know the answer??
    You do have a corpus Luteum if you produce eggs/ovulate. It's what's left of the follicle once the egg is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie74 View Post
    I know nothing really in comparison to most in here.. But I thought they give you progesterone when doing an IVF cycle Bcos you don't produce a corpus luteum?? Whether it's fresh OR frozen??? And it's the corpus luteum that provides the progesterone in a normal (non IVF) pregnancy?

    Or is that wrong? Do u have a corpus luteum in an IVF full cycle but not during a medicated FET?

    God.. This stuff if a real head fruck some days..

    BIB I'm guessing you'll know the answer??

    Here's a shameless copy and paste explaining....



    1. Natural Cycle (FET)In this method, ovulation takes place naturally and the embryos are transferred when the uterus is naturally ready to accept embryos. Monitoring may commence 2 to 4 days before estimated ovulation. Blood tests may be conducted to measure hormones(oestrogen, luteinising hormone and progesterone) until one day after ovulation.Ultrasound is the preferred method of monitoring the size of the follicle and thickness of the lining of the uterus (endometrium).

    2. Hormone Replacement Therapy (FET). Alternatively, Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) can be used to prepare the uterus to accept embryos. The two female hormones - oestrogen and progesterone - act on the lining of the womb to prepare it for implantation of an embryo or embryos. An ultrasound scan to measure the thickness of the lining of the uterus will be performed on day 10-12. If the endometrium is the right thickness, you will continue to take oestrogen - and will be advised when to commence progesterone. Commencing progesterone synchronises the uterus with the age of the embryos, so that day 3 embryos will be transferred into a ‘day 3’ uterus or day 5 embryos in a ‘day 5 uterus’

    Progesterone is taken in the form of a vaginal pessary or gel. It is important that you do not cease taking the oestrogen medication when you commence progesterone. All patients on HRT therapy continue to use progesterone pessaries and oestrogen tablets until the day of the pregnancy test. If the pregnancy test is positive, the above medication will continue throughout most of the first trimester.

    After the Embryo Transfer Controlled (HRT) cycle. It is important that you continue your oestrogen and progesterone medication as prescribed by your fertility specialist until advised to cease.

    Natural cycles. You may be prescribed 2 hCG injections to administer on specific days following your embryo transfer or commence on progesterone pessaries to support the lining of the uterus.A pregnancy blood test is ordered by your specialist for 14-16 days after your embryo transfer to determine whether you are pregnant. If you are using hCG injections and you do your pregnancy test earlier than advised, a ‘false positive’ may occur because of the pregnancy hormone in the injection. It is important to always wait until the advised date of testing unless your fertility specialist advises otherwise. Bleeding or spotting before the pregnancy test may not be a period so it is important to continue on all medication until advised to cease by your IVF nurse or clinician.
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    @Lolly99 I have just PMed @ECM1981. Her last transfer is very much at the forefront of my mind. That's why I know Dr W would transfer 3 'not looking great' embryos. I definitely wouldn't re-freeze a poor looking embryo as it would require a trip all the way back to CT for a SET. When I asked my CFC FN about refreezing embryos she just firmly shook her head. Also, legally, I couldn't put it in with a new embryo to form a DET.
    Thanks truckloads for all of your input today girls. I have a much clearer idea what I'd do now if I find myself in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulieMalooley View Post
    If you do an epu or ovulate your body produces progesterone naturally. The rupturing follicle triggers your body to start creating it. If you do a FET your body doesn't produce progesterone was my understanding?
    This IVF caper is sooooo confusing. If we produce progesterone after an EPU, why do we invariably get put on it?

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    So pregnyl booster was on Tuesday morning and some of you said it stays in your system for a number of days. Well according to this, not for me. Should I speak to the nurse to let her know my body is rejecting the hcg or something? Attachment 78160

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