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    Good luck @Precious40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Morning girls, thanks so much for your well wishes for yesterdays hysteroscopy, D&C, endo scratch & pap smear. My oven is perfectly healthy. LB kept saying it's a complete mystery as to why it's not working.
    I asked her what my chances of success are with an OE transfer. She shook her head and indicated none.
    She said the women she refers to CT usually get pregnant on their first or second try, so to one do one more double DE transfer and stop. She suggested only taking Clexane (homo MTHFR) and Astrix (to prevent a stroke).
    I have a bit to come to terms with.

    Oh wow @Tahli. So she is basically saying "If it doesn't work this next time, it's over?"

    Far out. On rare occasions we allow our minds to venture to that territory in private, but to have your FS say that, and as blatantly as she did....well, that must be crushing to hear.

    At the end of the day it is your choice I suppose. If she won't treat you then someone else might. I think we're all going to have to cross everything extra hard this time for you and hope like hell you don't need to worry about a next time.

    You did get so close last time. That's hopeful

    Hugs to you hon.

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    @Tahli good to hear your oven is good. How can she say none..its not none when they cant find anything wrong AND when you've clearly had a natural pregnancy in the past!! All they can say is low, but in actual fact they have no bloody idea! I know its a lot of money to go with your OE cycle but I just feel that its your decision and yes you know the chances are smaller than DE but its your life and you have to know you did what you felt at the time. Also why cant you do IUI given that you have no known issues with your tubes? It worked for MGC Bertie after years of IVF transfers. That way it would be a hell of a lot cheaper too..

    Hope you're ok

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    Good luck @Precious40

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity888 View Post
    @Blossom your scans will reveal all. How are you feeling about the process this time? Im thinking of you with absolutely everything crossed.

    Such a loaded question @Infinity!

    To be honest I'm really scared and really nervous, in comparison to last time when I was hopeful. The difference is that last time I always knew there was a 'next time' to fall back on, whereas this time THIS IS IT! Physically, stimming is much as I remember it to be. Some days crying, some days angry, some days ok. I hang out for the ok days!


    @greenlady, I know that quality is more important than quantity but to be honest I don't worry a lot about the quality side of things. Last time I made 3 eggs, and two of those fertilised successfully. One even made it to freezer, in and of itself a near miracle. I have faith in my body to make good quality eggs, the trouble for me is coaxing the little b@stards out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDa View Post
    Thanks all for support and ideas
    I'm at work (it's 4am ish) very quiet so lots of time to sit at catastrophise!
    My donor has had children my FS and my nurse kept saying that 32 is the ideal age for a donor?
    DP's sperm is pretty bad low motility/morphology etc.
    initially my FS wouldn't entertain the idea it could be a sperm issue, he said that for the first 3 days the sperm doesn't really do anything it's all about the egg! I pushed the topic and eventually he agreed that it is effecting our chances and threw a years supply of menevit at DP. Also discussed that testicular aspiration thingy, DP was like "what's that" and then "no frucking way".
    So the plan is DP MUST make lifestyle changes, prior to next cycle we will do a "mock HA ICSI" if no good a needle in the nether regions it is!
    Ex-DP had the TESA procedure done twice and it wasn't that bad for him either. He elected to stay awake both times, though the first time they gave him a bit of pethidine which made him groggy anyway.

    Your DP can elect to be knocked out for the procedure if he's a bit squirmish about it. Hopefully he'll just tow the line instead and make the lifestyle changes required for the next few months and hopefully avoid that path altogether

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    @Precious40 All the best today Luv!!!

    and prayers being sent!!!

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    So I haven't been on for a week and I'm hundreds of posts behind
    I see @Precious40 has another BT today - good luck - this shiz has dragged out far too long - get thee some answers !! @Tahli, that's great news about your oven ! ****e that it's one of those 'we just dunno' answers though. Do you think it's still worth taking pred regardless? Or are you over all the meds... ?
    Sorry, I know I've missed a lot, all the answers are probably in the last 40 pages of this thread !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Morning girls, thanks so much for your well wishes for yesterdays hysteroscopy, D&C, endo scratch & pap smear. My oven is perfectly healthy. LB kept saying it's a complete mystery as to why it's not working.
    I asked her what my chances of success are with an OE transfer. She shook her head and indicated none.
    She said the women she refers to CT usually get pregnant on their first or second try, so to do one more double DE transfer and stop. She suggested only taking Clexane (homo MTHFR) and Astrix (to prevent a stroke). And that I should have a higher chance of success after the clean out.
    I have a bit to come to terms with.

    PS: She was completely relaxed pre-theatre, when we chatted, and it felt more like she was talking to me as a friend...plus I get a feeling she wants me off her books now. I think @Sue77 knows the feeling!
    Agree giving your oven a good clean will help to aid with implantation similar to having the Endo Scratch done Am glad there's nothing amiss in there either

    Am sorry about the OE stats...it would've been difficult to hear and be told not to bother trying, but I know the chances at 41/42 are around 5% just from what I've researched and what the live birth rate was at my Clinic. Of course, all FS's have their own individual stats too which is probably more accurate to go by.

    I agree with her in going back to SA for either a DET or SET but I have to be honest and say there's no way I'd be doing it without implementing Dr M's immune protocol that he suggested for you.

    However, that's me and I know you hate what the drugs do to your body, so it's up to you to decide and do what's best for you Luv

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    Yep, that's exactly what she was saying @Blossom. My guess is she's working with possible percentages of success after 3 failed DE cycles. I'm going to ask my CT FS's opinion.
    I think the crushing bit was hearing it wasn't worth trying with my OEs after she'd suggested a Boost Cycle and given me a script for meds to boost the condition of my eggs and I'd reserved my DS etc. She certainly wasn't saying to stop using my OEs in our consult 2 weeks ago.
    @tuxcat If I had access to IUI I'd do it in my off cycles but b/c I'm over 40 I can't access IUI in Victoria. The success rates are too low apparently. Thanks for the suggestion though.
    I remember following the final part of @McGBertie's ttc journey. What an inspiration!

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