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    Hi all, I am a new mum with a 6 week old baby so need some advise please.

    My baby was introduced to dummy when she was 3 days old as she was crying a lot and nurse said perhaps dummy can calm her down. It did.

    She likes the dummy but didn't love it. She could use it or leave it. If we give her dummy, she will fall asleep really quickly and won't wake up when the dummy falls out.

    However this started to change when she was around 4.5 weeks (coincide with a growth spurt?). She now loves the dummy. But when the dummy falls out she will wake up and cry. This could go on for 3-10 times before she goes into a deep sleep. But after a sleep cycle she might not be able to self settle if the dummy falls out.

    I need help! As I'm not hating the dummy. I can't do much but just stay near her (out of sight) and be ready to put the dummy in.

    My questions:
    - is there a gentle way to wean off the dummy?
    - if I introduce a new comforter, am k creating the same issue just different object?
    - is it too early to teach a 6 week old to self settle?
    - is there any other way to self settle training other than CC and CIO?
    - I'm not against CC or CIO but is 6 weeks old too young?

    What advise can you give me please?

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    Hi there, I think 6 weeks old is far too young for any form of controlled crying or cry it out.

    To be honest I would go cold turkey and ditch the dummy and even if at 6 weeks introduce another sleep aid that easier to wean off when older. Can you feed to sleep perhaps? Or put bub down awake and swaddled and sit with him and rub or pat his tummy and shhhhhh him to sleep? He may still cry but you're with him the whole time until he's asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    Hi there, I think 6 weeks old is far too young for any form of controlled crying or cry it out.

    To be honest I would go cold turkey and ditch the dummy and even if at 6 weeks introduce another sleep aid that easier to wean off when older. Can you feed to sleep perhaps? Or put bub down awake and swaddled and sit with him and rub or pat his tummy and shhhhhh him to sleep? He may still cry but you're with him the whole time until he's asleep.
    Yeah I'm not that sure about cc at this age either. I am not going to be able to BF for long (another topic - supply issue) so not sure if i should introduce that. Might need to pat and sshh her I think.

    Someone told me about a little security blanket as comforter but what happen at night when it's dark and she can't see her security blanket?

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    I think 6 weeks is too early. I'm all for dummies, my daughter only ever gets her dummy for sleep. But it's a personal thing so it's up to you whether or not you keep it.

    Is there a sleep group or something you can go to? I found my local one (I went with my daughter at the same age) was really helpful and gave me tools to try and to be honest, once I persisted it worked. I also went to the subsequent one when she was a little older and that was just as useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mona424 View Post
    I think 6 weeks is too early. I'm all for dummies, my daughter only ever gets her dummy for sleep. But it's a personal thing so it's up to you whether or not you keep it.

    Is there a sleep group or something you can go to? I found my local one (I went with my daughter at the same age) was really helpful and gave me tools to try and to be honest, once I persisted it worked. I also went to the subsequent one when she was a little older and that was just as useful.
    Never heard of sleep group but will explore. Going to mothers group for the first time this week so I'll ask other mums. I don't mind dummy but I just don't like how she wakes herself up everytime dummy falls out. It seems to do more harm than good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minib View Post
    Yeah I'm not that sure about cc at this age either. I am not going to be able to BF for long (another topic - supply issue) so not sure if i should introduce that. Might need to pat and sshh her I think.

    Someone told me about a little security blanket as comforter but what happen at night when it's dark and she can't see her security blanket?
    At 6 weeks, is she still swaddled? Then a comforter is impossible to grab but still a good idea if you can sleep with it for a night so it has your smell on it.

    What is her awake time. At 6 weeks 1-1.5 hours is max awake time to avoid overtiredness. That time includes a feed. So try and stick to that too or pat shhhhhh may not work. I would though put Bub down and leave her alone to see how she goes, but would go to her once she cries. Don't just assume she needs you right away until she tells you she does by crying.

    Do you have a pre nap/sleep routine? It's worth starting that too so Bub knows what's coming next. So it might include a bum change, swaddled, sing a song, have a cuddle, put down in the basinet or cot and see if she settles.

    PS Sorry I called her a 'him' in my first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    At 6 weeks, is she still swaddled? Then a comforter is impossible to grab but still a good idea if you can sleep with it for a night so it has your smell on it.

    What is her awake time. At 6 weeks 1-1.5 hours is max awake time to avoid overtiredness. That time includes a feed. So try and stick to that too or pat shhhhhh may not work. I would though put Bub down and leave her alone to see how she goes, but would go to her once she cries. Don't just assume she needs you right away until she tells you she does by crying.

    Do you have a pre nap/sleep routine? It's worth starting that too so Bub knows what's coming next. So it might include a bum change, swaddled, sing a song, have a cuddle, put down in the basinet or cot and see if she settles.

    PS Sorry I called her a 'him' in my first post.
    No worries re the 'him'

    She's half swaddled. As in her arms are out and we only wrap her body from chest down. Loosely wrapped too.

    I have cut down her awake time to 1.5hours max. Made the mistake of keeping her up longer. So as compromise I've cut down feeding time. These is the routine

    Day time
    BF 30 mins
    Top up 10 mins
    Burp 5-10 mins
    Nappy change
    Play time 10-15 mins
    Tummy time 3-5 mins
    Sleep

    Before night sleep
    Feed 40 mins
    Bath 10 mins
    Sleep

    Night time
    Feed 15 mins bottle only
    Sleep

    Her awake time this week 8 am, 12 pm, 3 pm, 6/7 pm, 11 pm, 3 am

    A bit all over the place in the last few days but before that was 7 am, 11 am, 3 pm, 6 pm, 11 pm, 3 am

    Basically every 3-4 hours.

    Right before nap or sleep, I cuddle and sing song then put her down. We found out tonight DH and I have slightly different method so might have also confused her. We both cuddle and sing song but he holds her much longer before he puts her down.

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    I wonder if a different brand/shape dummy might help? She might be able to grip it in her gums a bit more and therefore not need you to find it for her so often?! Just a thought...Good Luck OP!

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    Ebay sell a good range of dummies in different sizes. Buy a Premmie sized one & try it if the Newborn size is too big. Maybe your bub has a small mouth so a Premmie size might suit better??

    Look at the Jollypop dummies (They used to be called Gumdrops but have been rebranded) range made by Hawaii Medical Group. It's the brand they use here & give to babies in our hospitals SCN.

    My DD loved hers & wouldn't take any other brand until she was about 5 months old.

    http://m.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_mwB...sid=m270.l1313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its Me View Post
    I wonder if a different brand/shape dummy might help? She might be able to grip it in her gums a bit more and therefore not need you to find it for her so often?! Just a thought...Good Luck OP!
    Thanks @Its Me and @BlondeinBrisvegas I'm now also thinking maybe I should try different dummy

    That one looks very familiar. Looks like the one we got given from the hospital. We changed to one grandma bought her but may try that one again tomorrow. Will let you know how we go.

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