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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Something's amiss because I'm agreeing with VP and not you 😧😉.

    I think j37's 'for god sake's' was directed at the other responses, the insinuation of an agenda and the Dr being out of line. I can see how the intensity or 'having a go' came off fully directed at SAgirl but I personally don't think it was. I think her message to SAgirl, although maybe not delivered perfectly, was 'you ask a lot of questions regarding your children's health, please take your dr's opinion more seriously than anonymous people on the internet.'
    But the last part is exactly what I'm talking about. From everything I've read on here she does take her doctors advice seriously. She is just asking for others to let her know if they've been through anything similar. I still don't see what's the harm in that.

    Anyway I'm trying to stay away from this place at the moment or particularly these types of threads so will retreat.

    My opinion remains as always and that's that message should be framed to engage not alienate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Something's amiss because I'm agreeing with VP and not you 😧😉.
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    Where are the mods?? Quick - close the thread before things get out of hand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Or maybe the doctor is giving a factual medical opinion and it's he parent that is influenced by culture/religion/opinion?
    Touching on the advice of a GP saying your child is such and such weight or age and overnight breastfeeds are no longer necessary, I do think is a medical opinion and not personal. I rarely see the same GP more than once, a result of an overcrowded NHS, and every single one told me DS no longer needed overnight feeds, that I could look into night weaning him. This was usually mentioned casually over whatever questions they were asking regarding him or myself for whatever reason I was there for. I think they are just stating a medical fact in case you need reassurance that night weaning or pushing the time between feeds is the right step to take. Whether or not that aligns with what you believe is right for your child (emotionally, behaviorally, physically, etc.) is another issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    But the last part is exactly what I'm talking about. From everything I've read on here she does take her doctors advice seriously. She is just asking for others to let her know if they've been through anything similar. I still don't see what's the harm in that.

    Anyway I'm trying to stay away from this place at the moment or particularly these types of threads so will retreat.

    My opinion remains as always and that's that message should be framed to engage not alienate.
    I agree, there was no harm in SAgirl's post. I just think J37's post wasn't meant to be as 'mean' as it came off, she's explained further what she meant and people should maybe just cut her some slack. I think every single hubber in the history of the hub has posted a comment they could have worded better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    I agree, there was no harm in SAgirl's post. I just think J37's post wasn't meant to be as 'mean' as it came off, she's explained further what she meant and people should maybe just cut her some slack. I think every single hubber in the history of the hub has posted a comment they could have worded better.
    Fair point. I know I've been guilty of that for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    . I think every single hubber in the history of the hub has posted a comment they could have worded better.
    Not me!

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    Look, I am sorry if I offended. It was not my intention. As I said, I am very passionate about medical-misinformation, especially when it comes to children. If my patients are concerned, I would hope they ask more questions, or bring the child back to the hospital, rather than search the internet or rely on the advice of non-medical personnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Look, I am sorry if I offended. It was not my intention. As I said, I am very passionate about medical-misinformation, especially when it comes to children. If my patients are concerned, I would hope they ask more questions, or bring the child back to the hospital, rather than search the internet or rely on the advice of non-medical personnel.

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    That is very cute!

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    @J37 it's great to be passionate and we all get that :-) and it's great to know there are passionate doctors out there. I totally respect you and your attitude towards medicine, and I thank you for clarifying your point.

    For those of us that have to wait three weeks minimum for an appointment before we get shunted through for a seven minute slot (90 mins minimum late) with a doctor we may or may not have seen before then get charged $74, sometimes we have to be a bit enterprising about how we gain information. It doesn't mean I don't want the best for my child. Far from it :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    Yeah, but when there is less than 1% chance that medical circumcision is necessary it seems odd that a doctor has come in, pulled back on a 4 year old's foreskin, declared it tight and mentions circumcision as a possibility when it doesn't really sound like there's anything major going on. A red tip sounds like a sign of infection. It has happened to my boys from time to time, especially at pre-school age. A bit of nappy rash cream cleared it right up. I didn't even bother taking them to the doctor when it happened.

    SAgirl, like others have suggested, seek a second opinion. Medically necessary circumcision is rare, but maybe there was something that alerted to the doctor to the idea of circumcision that he didn't explain properly to you (which is poor practice). At least with a second opinion you'll know whether circumcision may be something that you need to consider, or that this doctor's knowledge on foreskins aren't up to date and you can ignore what he said.

    ETA - From the information provided it sounds like the doctor's concerns (my uneducated guess this is! I am not a doctor) relate to balanitis, which is common in the ages of boys who can't retract their foreskin yet, and can be cleared up with ointments, creams, and good hygiene. Or possibly balanoposthitis, which again can be treated with creams, ointments, good hygiene, and if required, antibiotics. The 'tight' foreskin (phimosis), is normal in boys who's foreskin doesn't retract, and requires immediate attention if it is causing problems with urination...which hasn't been mentioned, or if it's causing pain and discomfort during intercourse, which is of no concern for SAgirl's son. Balanitis and balanoposthitis may require circumcision if they are occurring so frequently and is causing phimosis. For a doctor to walk in, look at a child who is visiting the doctor with the problem for the FIRST time, and mentions circumcision as a possibility my instincts would be to ignore that doctor and see someone else if my son had an issue again.
    Medically necessary circ's are actually not as rare as you may think.

    So if your son was having ongoing issues you would prefer him be in discomfort/pain while his issue heals then wait for the next time rather than listen to the opinion of a medical practitioner, let your son have a circ so he no longer has further issues!! I would personally take the initiative myself and speak to my gp about a circ if my son was having ongoing issues as I would feel terrible knowing he was in pain every time.

    Pro circ'ers have been refered a few things over the years by anti circ'ers on bubhub and a child abuser is one of them. I think seeing and knowing your child is in pain on an ongoing basis and not doing anything about it is child abuse.

    Op, I would ask for a referal to a specialist for a second opinion if your not satisfied with your gp's advice.
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