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    Quote Originally Posted by princessrory View Post
    It absolutely works like that with Wazza now unfortunately. QFG have cracked down on multiple embryo transfer rates.

    Wazza also really heavily leans to D5 transfers now too.

    I suspect it's all policy driven, rather than his preference, but I can assure you that if he's getting close to his quota, he'll be asking another FS to do the transfer. That's what he's told us, with much more colourful language of course!
    Wazza has said to us that he favours day 5 as he believes that if they don't get to 5 they won't make it. He said he also does quite a few day 6s for slower embies. He'll do a day 3 if you ask. Our FS#1 (also QFG) would only do day 3 with >40. As we get more embies with Wazza, day 5 works as we'd have had 4 embies on day 3 last cycle. Day 5 also lines up of course with roughly when they'd naturally be landing in the uterus anyway.

    In terms of QFG policy there is a laminated page on Wazza's desk which details a comparison of some stats between Wazza and average of QFG FS's and ends by saying he was within parameters and is hereby accreditated for another year. Multiple transfers were part of that criteria. They should embrace his brilliance, not try to restrict him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by princessrory View Post
    You turned 38 in September 2012, 39 in 2013 - although you said you were 40.3 for you BFFP, 40 in 2014, 41 in 2015. Yet your signature says you're 42.

    Humour me, because I'm just not understanding the numbers you're giving me. I assure you I can do pretty complex maths, but I'm not making this work. I assume that it's just a glitch in communication.

    And I'm not having a go at you, so settle down with the insults please.
    Yes...communication mix up with dates. I was 40.3 yrs when I got my BFFP in Dec 2013.

    Just off turning 41 yrs when DD was born (less than 2 weeks away) in 2014 and am now 42.

    Apologies for the stuff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Actually he was in favour of Day 5 transfers when I Cycled with him also but was happy to do what I wanted/needed to do.

    Yes QFG have cracked down now but going on G's earlier post..they still must be allowing TET's by the sounds of it.
    @BlondeinBrisvegas can I ask why you leant towards an earlier transfer?

    The TET was on the table for our transfer two weeks ago, so must still be an option. Maybe we are an extraordinary case. One of the things I think we all appreciate with Wazza is that he can take in and hold so much info, so whilst he considers a TET as an option I don't think its use is based purely on age, but on overall clinical picture (in our case we have AMA/endo/adeno/PCOS and MFI issues).

    To to be honest I have more of an issue with mandatory SET over DET, particularly for early transfers and/or when embies cannot be frozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas can I ask why you leant towards an earlier transfer?

    The TET was on the table for our transfer two weeks ago, so must still be an option.
    Aaah...that's good to know for certain Wazza Ladies!!!😁

    Sure you can ask😊 The Day 4 transfer was because a Day 5 was going to fall on a Sun which meant I would've had to wait until the Monday & done a Day 6 instead.

    I got cold feet over the thought of having to wait that long so opted for a Day 4 instead.

    The Day 3 was because DP couldn't get the day off work for a Day 5 which would've been a Monday & I needed him to drive me home (no-one else could do it that day & they wouldn't let me take a taxi home which was fair enough) as Wazza gave me pethidine as well as the Valium for my transfers due to them being excrutiatingly painful for me.

    The reason for the pain is 2 fold according to "The Man" himself...1. My cervix has scar tissue from previous Gynae surgery & 2. It was/is (had an elective C-Section) on the very tight side due to never having had a baby before which made "getting through the door more difficult" (i.e. passing the catheter through) according to him!!😁😁😁

    After having the "Wazza Special" I was like..."Pain?? What pain??" 😁😁😁
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    I highly doubt the risk of twins is increased by 50% in women 40+ using their OE's.
    Sorry girls , I think that might be PGD normal embies as those were the stats I was looking at recently. (I've edited the original post in case somebody comes across this in the future).
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    I have seen 50% twin rate quoted for DET with donor embryos (young eggs, good quality). I have not seen stats specifically for over 40's but imagine it would be much lower. Obviously it does happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithandhopellove View Post
    I have seen 50% twin rate quoted for DET with donor embryos (young eggs, good quality). I have not seen stats specifically for over 40's but imagine it would be much lower. Obviously it does happen though.
    Yes..it does happen. One of Wazza's over 40's Ladies is Preggo with OE twins now & is the first one I've come accross since joining this forum who is through IVF using OE's over 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    @gagingi if you don't eat a lot, appetite is not a problem and what you do eat is healthy then maybe now is not the time to worry about it, sounds like you would have to either dangerously starve yourself or come off all the meds to lose weight, neither of which would help your fertility.............

    Can you up your exercise? My fitness is a distant memory..... constant IVF meds and stress has knocked me right out of any routine.

    Also, I do lite n easy, both myself and my partner work and it really helps during the week.
    Thanks @Bongley, it's mainly BMI that worries me as its teetering on 30 which is not good for fertility. Whilst I look overweight and people that know me can see a definite (huge) increase, I don't look as big as my BMI indicates, so doctors don't worry about it and I think see it as a vanity issue if I raise it. I probably need to be clearer with them.

    Yes, I definitely need to re-jig the exercise routine, but find it goes pear-shaped during a cycle and I've done 5 cycles in 6 months. I put on another 8-10 kg during a cycle and generally feel pretty unwell, so exercise is tricky, but I think I'll focus on that before stimming again.

    We've have tried L&E, but carbs are not my friend and I put on over a kg/week on their 1200 cal program. I'm tall so that was ridiculous and just made me depressed about ageing! It wouldn't have happened in my 20s or 30s.

    I probably need to get my thyroid checked too as I think stim drugs can irritate it. FS#1 put me on thyroid meds as fertility range is different to general range and I was sub-clinically hypo.

    @Chiefsgirl my diet is pretty much Paleo. DH doesn't follow it, but I do 99.9%. I find some cycle drugs totally put me off food (e.g. Cetrotide) and then I just need calories as I've got quite unwell during some cycles. I also read somewhere though that women's fertility used to be more seasonally driven and carb/fat storage was a signal that times were plentiful and it was a good/safe time for pregnancy - a number of species' fertility is resource dependent, so that would confuse Paleo. Thanks for your suggestions ladies. Grrr, it's all too hard!
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    Given the talk of QFG transfer rates I had a look at their current info pack...

    "As recommended by the Fertility Society of Australia couples under the age of 40 years may have a maximum of two embryos replaced in any treatment cycle. QGF further requires any patient who creates embryos from oocytes aged less than 35 years and is having her first two embryo transfers with those embryos is only eligible to have a single embryo replaced on those two occasions." ... "This is to reduce the risk of multiple pregnancy".

    In another part it says guidelines suggest SET for women <35 and no more than 2 (DET) for women <40. No mention of us over 40s specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Yes..it does happen. One of Wazza's over 40's Ladies is Preggo with OE twins now & is the first one I've come accross since joining this forum who is through IVF using OE's over 40.
    I'm not having twins, but am pregnant using OE. I was 41 & 10 months when the eggs were collected, will be 43 when bub is born 😊

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