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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    My FS will not transfer two at a time - they will be single transfers. So my intention would be that anything that develops to Day 5 (no matter the grading) would be frozen and transferred in a single transfer without any testing being done.

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    They have to be of the highest Grading to be frozen Luv, if not they'll be left to succumb in the dish and discarded which is why I suggested the double transfer as just because they're not good enough to freeze doesn't mean they're not good enough to give you a BFFP.

    The risk of twins at our age using our own eggs are negligible and I have to be honest and say that any FS or Clinic that don't allow women who are over 40 to have a double transfer with untested embryo's if requested are only interested in revenue raising IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    I have requested and been refused a double transfer
    @Blossom74 our FS#1 refused a double for me under any circumstances (mind you given the protocol he used the chances of us having even one decent embie was bugger all). FS#2 on the other hand decided that 3 with OE is clinically indicated for us (5dt) - if they were available. At our age the chances of our own eggs implanting are so slim, I think one is overly conservative, or worse revenue raising.

    I thought at 40+ with OE and multiple attempts you actually can demand up to 3? The FS can then refuse to be your Ob/Gyn (but who cares you're pregnant!!!) and chances are you'll only end up with a singleton anyway. If you want to transfer more than one I'd lobby your FS and take in some stats. From memory a DET, with eggs from women under 35 or PGD normals*, increases the chance of pregnancy by 5% and chance of multiples by 50%, but that 50% is off such a slim base - it's a handful of pregnancies. When PDG normals fail and good graded embies turn out to be abnormal, we know the reality of the odds.

    https://www.asrm.org/uploadedFiles/A...yos%281%29.pdf
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    Agree completely with @Gagingi and @BlondeinBrisvegas - the chances of both sticking is low but then again, I know exactly what you mean about twins not being in the game plan. I thought generally over 40's were given two for transfer if they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    @Gagingi do you have polycystic ovaries? My doc put me on metformin as it helps fertility and it also knocks the edge of your appetite. It's helped me lose a few kilos.
    I do have PCOS and have been on 2000mg metformin for 2 1/2 months, but have also done back-to-back cycles. I don't actually eat a lot and it's generally very healthy. I've also been on 25-50mg prednisone most of that time and have a moon face since going onto the 50mg pred. I also have noticed that since I went off the pill a few years ago that I've had to be much more careful with my weight - I think the pill helped and that is one of the reasons my PCOS took so long to be diagnosed as I don't have the "typical" presentation apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petal40 View Post
    I went dairy & gluten free, due to naturopaths instruction, and not only did I lose 7kg but my egg haul doubled.
    As a rule I don't eat carbs, except for a punnet of blueberries every day or two. No bread, flour, sugar, sweets etc. I do eat dairy... During this last cycle TWT I did eat some toast as I had no appetite and thought I should eat something, but usually I'm a protein and vege girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Stupid bloody stim drugs and prednisone are mainly to blame for the weight gain Luv I reckon!!

    Duromine will in effect do the same thing as using VLCD shakes like Optifast as you'll be eating less, thus restricting your calories anyway. As such, I don't think Duromine would adversley affect your egg quality/numbers but Wazza will know about that or if it's contraindicated with any of the other pharmacy of supplements etc he's got you on

    I understand you wanting to shift some of the weight Luv, so maybe the Metformin could be a go-er??? Could perhaps try some Xenical too providing there's no contraindication. At least you don't need a prescription for that!!!
    Hehe I tried Xenical in my 20s (I'd be so happy to be that weight again!) and it's side effects make it a definite never again for me!

    Whilst Duromine is calorie restricting, I feel that at least you eat real food, whereas with the shakes they are so full of chemicals that that doesn't seem good for little eggies. I'll ask Wazza's office.
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    @gangini if you don't eat a lot, appetite is not a problem and what you do eat is healthy then maybe now is not the time to worry about it, sounds like you would have to either dangerously starve yourself or come off all the meds to lose weight, neither of which would help your fertility.............

    Can you up your exercise? My fitness is a distant memory..... constant IVF meds and stress has knocked me right out of any routine.

    Also, I do lite n easy, both myself and my partner work and it really helps during the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    @Blossom74 our FS#1 refused a double for me under any circumstances (mind you given the protocol he used the chances of us having even one decent embie was bugger all). Wazza on the other hand will do 3 with OE - we didn't ask, he told us that was what was happening. At our age the chances of our own eggs implanting are so slim, I think one is overly conservative, or worse revenue raising.

    I thought at 40+ with OE and multiple attempts you actually can demand up to 3? The FS can then refuse to be your Ob/Gyn, but who cares you're pregnant!!! and chances are you'll only end up with a singleton anyway. If you want to transfer more than one I'd lobby your FS and take in some stats. From memory a DET increases the chance of pregnancy by 5% and chance of multiples by 50%, but that 50% is off such a slim base - it's a handful of pregnancies. When PDG normals fail and good graded embies turn out to be abnormal, we know the reality of the odds.

    https://www.asrm.org/uploadedFiles/A...yos%281%29.pdf
    I highly doubt the risk of twins is increased by 50% in women 40+ using their OE's.

    Wazza is about the only FS in Aus that I know of who will transfer 3 but it's also QFG policy as well which he's happy to implement as he obviously agrees!!😁

    I, for one, am very glad he does/did for me as there's every possibility if I'd only been allowed the 1 embryo to transfer that my DD would've been left in the dish to perish judging by our track record with previous Cycles... i.e. 0 frosties 😐
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    There is a fs here in Sydney who will do 3 embie transfers. But the lady I know who sees this fs is in cycle 13 so a ivf warrior.
    @Gagingi wow I thought my pred dose of 30mg was high! I have nothing else to suggest from what the others have said. I went paleo before my last transfer and that was the only thing that shifted the weight for me. I've stayed dairy free during the pregnancy but gave gone back to gf bread.

    I was put on metformin when stimming and again now to help regulate sugar levels. But I was on 1500mg then and 500mg now so still less than you!

    Is your water intake good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    I highly doubt the risk of twins is increased by 50% in women 40+ using their OE's.

    Wazza is about the only FS in Aus that I know of who will transfer 3 but it's also QFG policy as well which he's happy to implement as he obviously agrees!!������

    I, for one, am very glad he does/did for me as there's every possibility if I'd only been allowed the 1 embryo to transfer that my DD would've been left in the dish to perish judging by our track record with previous Cycles... i.e. 0 frosties ������

    The Doctors transfer rates at my practice are very carefully scrutinised - they can have an average of 1.4 embryos per transfer for women over X age (I think 38) and maybe it goes up again over 40. *these exact numbers might be a bit off*

    It all comes down to how many embryos they've been transferring that month! So for those of us that don't get to transfer, that permits a DET for someone else.

    If the FS breaches this number more than 3 months in a row - there are repercussions. We all know why this has come into effect, supposedly. I do however think there are politics at play and are restrictive to women's rights as a patient to best care.

    So for women over 40 - easy to get 3 embryos transferred, because so few women make it to D5.

    Makes you wonder whether we'd all be better off with D3 transfers with 2-3 little buggers, especially since they really have no idea which ones are euploid and gonna grow.

    (one of the ways to get around this restrictive practice is to another FS who has mainly SETs to do a DET or TET...)

    So without a doubt, decisions on embryo transfers are made with other (non-clinical) factors in mind....! Like most things in medicine, I have to point out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princessrory View Post
    The Doctors transfer rates at my practice are very carefully scrutinised - they can have an average of 1.4 embryos per transfer for women over X age (I think 38) and maybe it goes up again over 40. *these exact numbers might be a bit off*

    It all comes down to how many embryos they've been transferring that month! So for those of us that don't get to transfer, that permits a DET for someone else.

    If the FS breaches this number more than 3 months in a row - there are repercussions. We all know why this has come into effect, supposedly. I do however think there are politics at play and are restrictive to women's rights as a patient to best care.

    So for women over 40 - easy to get 3 embryos transferred, because so few women make it to D5.

    Makes you wonder whether we'd all be better off with D3 transfers with 2-3 little buggers, especially since they really have no idea which ones are euploid and gonna grow.

    (one of the ways to get around this restrictive practice is to another FS who has mainly SETs to do a DET or TET...)

    So without a doubt, decisions on embryo transfers are made with other (non-clinical) factors in mind....! Like most things in medicine, I have to point out.
    Mine was a Day 3 transfer with 3 embryo's on my final Cycle. Day 4's the Cycle before

    I don't think it works like that with Wazza/QFG. Obviously I don't know for sure but my original FS is also with QFG and I did DET with him from my first Cycle at his suggestion and I was 37 when I started.
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