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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Refresh my poor memory @Bongley, are you triggering for EPU or triggering ovulation for a frozen transfer?

    If you are looking at EPU, would you consider it if there was only 1 follie?

    I know that sounds like a stupid question, but it's something I've been thinking about a lot lately. As you all know my first cycle I only produced 1 follie and a single egg which failed to fertilise. I felt like the whole cycle was a waste of time. My second one, I had 3 follies and 3 eggs, 2 of which fertilsed. I had a fresh and later a frozen transfer - ie: Two shots, if you will, to get pregnant from that cycle.

    In my mind I think of 3 as the minimum I would like to pick up. I fully appreciate though that I am lucky to get 3, and my FS did suggest to me that I should proceed with 1 at pickup if that's all there was, lest it be the elusive 'last one.'

    I feel like I still have more eggs in me yet! The two 'practise cycles' I did (I took a low dose Clomid only) saw me make 6 and 7 follies respectively, albeit not up to size. It didn't really matter though as I only needed to ovulate in order to be prepared to accept my frosty. But in the back of my mind I thought "Well, I'm sure they could have given me other drugs to extend the growing time for the other follies...."

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    I'm doing an FET, so the follicles don't matter, just the ovulation. I should put a little asterix as a reminder
    @Blossom74 Normally I wouldn't proceed with one, as you may as well just let it happen naturally each month (or do you not ovulate regularly?) I used to produce lots of eggs but crappy quality so one or two follicles for me would have been pointless. However if you got 2 frosties from 3 eggs, which is feking AMAZING (I never had any frosties from about 80 eggs!) then maybe low numbers but high quality is normal for you so you wouldn't want to waste that egg coming through. Sorry, I'm a bit of a fence sitter!
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    @Blossom74 im a low responder so im lucky to get 4 to 6 follies i wouldnt proceed with less than 3 follies due to the epu cost and hubby has tesa so we have lower than norm fert rates. I know of others that have gone ahead with 1 or 2 follies and they have gotten lucky. I suppose its a risk and you have to weigh up cost v cancelling and trying again another month. @Blossom74 what dose of meds were you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Apologies I haven't caught up on the last 2 days posts. Things have got super hectic. @Blossom74 You have every right to cancel EPU and be charged the $500 (depending on your safety net) instead of going to EPU for a number of follicles you're not happy with and being charged $5000. Good luck chatting with a new FS and enjoy your day relaxing.
    @BlondeinBrisvegas I did transitioning into DC with my poppet too and it's the kindest way to go for all parties!!
    @JulieMalooley Congrats on your fab nuchal scan! I'm so jealous and happy for you!!
    If a c-section is on the cards there is no way in heck you're going to want your girls in a different room. You could be up to them hourly and rolling over to a bedside cot to gain access to them, after major surgery, is the way to go. If you're breastfeeding you can just pop them on your breast & if your bottle feeding, or topping them up with formula, then DP can go & get the bottle ready.
    I'd be inclined to put your brain power into thinking about the basics. The girls birth. The 5 or so days in hospital if everything's straightforward. Accept that you'll be in the newborn 'fog' for the first 12 wks and research how parents of twins best manage this period.
    Here's a little example... You may want to exclusively breastfeed but accept that it may not go to plan. So it could be sensible to have products for sore breasts, tablets to boost your milk supply post surgery, breast pump & accessories, nightlight, something to record when you did the feeds for each girl, ready to pour formula, ask the hospital which bottles & teats they use so you can have some at home, the contact number for a breast feeding specialist in your phone etc. Those kinds of practical things can help alleviate the initial stress.
    Definitely schedule in support for the witching hour. Your girls will soon let you know when this will be! I could go on but I'll stop as I don't want to overwhelm you with info.
    AFM: To cut a long story short, I'm inserting Viagra 25mgs every 8 hours instead of the recommended 12 hours to try & make up ground. I was meant to have started the POI yesterday but as soon as I start injecting then my lining stops growing. I'll start POI at midnight tonight I think as I don't want to stuff up both my lining & progesterone.
    As a side note, CFC's minimum lining for transfer is around 6.5mm.
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    Good to know you've reached CFC's min for transfer already..that should alleviate a little bit of the stress/anxiety for you I hope though I totally understand you wanting to get your lining as thick as possible for transfer๐Ÿ˜Š

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    I'm doing an FET, so the follivles don't matter, just the ovulation. I should put a little asterix as a reminder
    @Blossom74 Normally I wouldn't proceed with one, as you may as well just let it happen naturally each month (or do you not ovulate regularly?) I used to produce lots of eggs but crappy quality so one or two follicles for me would have been pointless. However if you got 2 frosties from 3 eggs, which is feking AMAZING (I never had any frosties from about 80 eggs!) then maybe low numbers but high quality is normal for you so you wouldn't want to waste that egg coming through. Sorry, I'm a bit of a fence sitter!

    Lol, that's ok @Bongley. I'm on the fence too, hence the discussion! Ok, so if you're preparing for a frosty I would have thought they'd want to trigger you fairly soon? I suppose the concern though is the rate of growth, which is generally about 2mm per day (or so my FS told me anyway.) Sounds like your lead follie is taking it's sweet a$$ time about coming up to size! I really hope it comes along for you, or that perhaps they can trigger around that size anyway?

    Yup, it's a tough decision to be sure. Oh, but I didn't get 2 frosties - I had one fresh transfer and then the Grade A hatching blast got frozen. Still, not bad for an old duck I suppose. I think I'll have to ponder this a bit more. It will be interesting to get the new FS's opinion of it all. And to see my current FS again. You know I've only ever had one appointment with him, and he did one of my transfers (the fresh one) but otherwise I only ever see a nurse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    Hi goils, @Blossom74 yes I would have thought there would be a minimum follicle number that the clinic would expect before proceeding.

    So I had my bloods and scan today, my lining was 7mm which is fine (their minimum is 6 too) but my largest follicle was only sixteen. Up 3 mm from 5 days ago! All the other follicles seem to have shrunk back. So I'm peeved that I'm not triggering tonight and I'm not sure how long this will take and I'm running out of drugs (don't want to have to pay for more!). Ah well. Come on lone ranger, fatten up.

    good luck everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnite01 View Post
    @Blossom74 im a low responder so im lucky to get 4 to 6 follies i wouldnt proceed with less than 3 follies due to the epu cost and hubby has tesa so we have lower than norm fert rates. I know of others that have gone ahead with 1 or 2 follies and they have gotten lucky. I suppose its a risk and you have to weigh up cost v cancelling and trying again another month. @Blossom74 what dose of meds were you on?

    My DH has TESA too. He had a vasectomy 15+ years ago so there was no other way for it!

    So for the first cycle, I think it was Synarol morning and night, 400 Gonal-F and a full vial of Luveris. That was the crap cycle.

    The second cycle I took 100mg of Clomid for 5 days and 400 Gonal-F. In order to bring the follies up to size I did an additional 3 or so days on 450 Gonal F before trigger.

    The two practise runs I only took 5 days worth of Clomid at 50mg a day.

    Ovidrel triggers for all of them.

    That's all from memory of course but I think that's right!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Lol, that's ok @Bongley. I'm on the fence too, hence the discussion! Ok, so if you're preparing for a frosty I would have thought they'd want to trigger you fairly soon? I suppose the concern though is the rate of growth, which is generally about 2mm per day (or so my FS told me anyway.) Sounds like your lead follie is taking it's sweet a$$ time about coming up to size! I really hope it comes along for you, or that perhaps they can trigger around that size anyway?

    Yup, it's a tough decision to be sure. Oh, but I didn't get 2 frosties - I had one fresh transfer and then the Grade A hatching blast got frozen. Still, not bad for an old duck I suppose. I think I'll have to ponder this a bit more. It will be interesting to get the new FS's opinion of it all. And to see my current FS again. You know I've only ever had one appointment with him, and he did one of my transfers (the fresh one) but otherwise I only ever see a nurse.


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    @Blossom74 Not bad at all! I have hatching blasty envy Well you seem to have very good quality eggs/embryos, just not very many. So I can understand why he wouldn't want you to waste one if your numbers are dwindling and that is the main issue. Yeah sounds like it's time to sit down and nut it out with an FS or two. Or give them a call, might work out cheaper.

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    Don't get too jealous love, we all know where I ended up a month and a half ago.

    I wonder if any of this sort of stuff is inherited. My Mum conceived my sister naturally at 45 years old so obviously she was throwing out some good eggs too!

    One can only hope....

    I know if I do manage to get the moula together for another round, this would definitely be the last shot. Makes me even keener to get a couple in the freezer....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Don't get too jealous love, we all know where I ended up a month and a half ago.

    I wonder if any of this sort of stuff is inherited. My Mum conceived my sister naturally at 45 years old so obviously she was throwing out some good eggs too!

    One can only hope....

    I know if I do manage to get the moula together for another round, this would definitely be the last shot. Makes me even keener to get a couple in the freezer....


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    @Blossom74 Well I was going to suggest PGD testing but at 600 to 750 a pop it's not a great option if you are short of cash. Do you have access to a low cost clinic? Then you could give it a few more shots.

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